When I got home from the range yesterday and was sorting through some free dumpster-dived hulls I ran across a couple of Winchester 12GA AA hulls that were black. I've loaded for years and have seen and loaded a lot of different ones, but I had never seen black AA's. They are marked with the older style writing with the AA "boxed in" and were a handicap 7 1/2 trap load, with W-W on the brass base (Winchester Western). They are the one piece compression formed type just like the old standard ones, not the throw aways. I have only seen and loaded the red and light grey in the older ones and red and dark grey in the new style for 12GA. I figured you guys could satisfy my curiosity. Thanks, Joe.