friend has these and he is tired of bird watching. Actually used them to watch the missed clays that he was shooting. He tells me they are like brand new. About 1 year old but he actually watched birds out the back yard. He has the case, all the paperwork, original box, carry strap and a window mount to attach them to the inside of the house window. $1500 SHIPPED TO YOU. Buy them and if you don't like them three day inspection will apply you pay postage. MotorDOC. I listed a web site I found for the purpose of information and price comparsion.