Bill pretty much says it all. Lot of good safes on the market, but think and plan ahead when moving it in. Definately go with the push button lock.Won't need to wrry about moisture if you live in the desert area.
Just a few thoughts: I like having a tall safe; it does not take up any more room, but you get an extra shelf or two of storage. Buy a bigger safe than you think you need, because you will always need more. The doors usually are removable to lower the weight when moving the safe. Put it in a closet or where it is not seen by routine guests and wire that area into your alarm system with seperate motion and door alarms. Basement and garage areas may have more moisture and variation in temperature so rusting is more likely. You may be able to write it off as a business expense. AJ
Not saying that Liberty safes are the best, but there customer service is second to none. I had an issue with the shelves in my safe not being high enough for guns with 34" barrels so they sent me a new center divider at no charge.
I did a lot of research when I bought my safe. Liberty was the clear winner. Quality and options were my primary concern, but the price point was also very good. The customer service that came along with a very positive experience when they installed it in my home. I was not disappointed.
I moved about a year ago and the safe did remarkably well. There was no damage from the gorillas (movers).
I am sure there are plenty of good units available, but I am a Liberty fan for life.
If you value the content in your safe then buy a Fort Knox. No other brand has the available fire rating and seals to prevent water damage. Please remember that fire hazard to your safe contents is many times a higher probability than burglary. What good does your "bargain" safe do when the contents are destroyed by fire, water, and chemicals used to extinguish a fire. For those that disagree, please check with any large homeowners insurance underwriter and see how fire claims compare with theft claims. Lyle
These safe threads can get crazy...Some will probably tell you anything less than $5K is not a safe and only a glorified cabinet.....Most will stop a smash and grab theif, but not someone prepared to get in.
Also, moving companies have walking appliance dollies to get it downstairs if you want it there....Stories abound of people and safes going right through the stairs on the way down....I also think you can rent those walking dollies...
A hole for electrical or cat5 is nice, but remember there is now a hole there..Be sure to mount it to the floor or wall.
Once they are tipped over they can much easier be accessed.....I have a friend who did not secure his, and they tipped it over, used the whole for the goldenrod and that was the pilot for their sawsall and prybars...They got in...
Best thing would be to give us an idea on your price point, and size and maybe someone here can help choose whats best at the level for you.....
If too light, they will just remove the whole thing from your house intact....yes
I looked at Fort Knox, Heritage, Amsec, Browning, and several others. I only mention these names because they are some of the top brands. I ended up the Heritage and have been very pleased. You do get what you pay for. Preventing theft is expensive when it comes to safes. Cheap ones just can keep them out. By more space than you think you need. The guns are tight in there and you can easily bang them together taking one out.
I agree fire may be more of something to consider...
Also, I heard if downstairs you have alot more time in a fire...Heat rises, and it takes a while for a fire to get that hot, and usually they are there by then....Unless the roof collapses down on it still burning...
I have an American Security 53 gun safe, seems to be a very good unit with a high fire protection rating. I would recommend a larger than you think you need model as the only way they hold the number that is advertised is if you have bare bones guns. No scopes or monte carlo type stocks, etc. And yes, find out where you are going to put it once and for all. Mine weighs 1200 lbs so I don't want to move it!
If you do a TS search you will find enough info to make a educated decision. In my case I selected Graffunder because there is no equal, in it's class. Given it's cost to content ratio in my case,it is worth every dollar spent. Unfortunately there is probably a considerable number of safe owners who feel otherwise and that is why there guns sometime turn up on this website,in the stolen guns thread. The word safe is never said,when you own a residential security container!