shoulder each one YOURSELF--which one makes you feel like rocks will break--which one feels balanced to YOU!!--which one has you looking right down the rib---and after you drop $1400 do you still feel confidant???---i really think , either gun will shoot mechanicly well--goodluck
Mr. BurgosO5, I'll start by saying that I agree with everything acss said...I will say however that you'll need closer to $1800 for a new Super Sport and close to $2000 for a new 391 Teknys...and with all due respect to BAD 303 I'll bet he hasn't shot the new Performance Shop Benelli Super Sport that
Benelli sends to Briley and they lengthen the forcing cone, back bore to .733, trigger job, anodized bolt closure, release button, re-laser the crio chokes and build and include a Briley Skeet and LM also anodized in red...$2500 and worth every penny...now that's just my opinion 'cause I just bought one about a month ago and OMG what a "Crusher"! I also have a Teknys Gold Sporting which I truly love to take to the S/Clay woods as well...I purchased a Blaser Attache F3 for my sporting clay gun about 2 yrs. ago...one day I took my Teknys out and haven't put it down...that is til' I picked up the Benelli! I like to shoot all my guns, they all fit, and they all bust'em up! I shoot NE Ohio/NW PA S/Clay circuit and I can't believe how many autoloaders I see...Pick either one and have a ball! Lastly, an elder shootin' partner who's down in Florida for the winter just shot a Browning Maxus Sporting and was really impressed with fit and feel...he shoots a K5 and also has a Teknys...Good luck w/ your decision, but do Google Benelli Performance Shop!!! Tim
I have both in the plain jane form and if I were you, I would go with a used plain 391 for less than 1/2 the price. Both are excellent guns. The 391 is more likely to feed very light loads which you will come to if you shoot enough. Avoid plastic like the plague--transmits recoil, to you, much more efficiently than wood. You can buy either used in great shape for 7-850 and if you decide to switch, get your money back in a flash. That's my .02 cents.
There is nothing complex about the Beretta gas system and there is nothing complexed or has to be done anymore frequent than any other gas gun. I own two target 391's and like them very much. Though not my primary trap gun but, could see it being so if I chose to.
I love the fit and feel of the Benelli autos but don't own one. May consider one in a sub-gauge sometime in the future.
Go with what YOU think the better value would be. Compare fit, price,reliability, and eye appeal. Personally Im a benelli guy, I own or have shot every model they have and every vareity of shell through them and have never been kicked by one. I also have shot several Berettas in hunting and target situations and also have not been pounded. i can tell you in all honesty mine have never failed me and they will cycle anything at anytime. The Benelli Super sport would be or should I say was my best buy , good luck beni
OK, so I am lucky enough to have both and find they are different enough that you need to shoot both before you decide. The 391 is heavier up front due to the gas system in the fore end. Some folks find this helps them swing on targets better, other like the light "get on target now" easy of pointing the Benelli. The 'Nelli does require a more deliberate swing, but man does it get on target fast.
Recoil? The 391 Teknys is one of the lightest shooting guns out there in large part thanks to the stadard recoil dampner that comes with that model Beretta. A Basic 391 does NOT come withone and kicks, IMHO every bit as much if not more than the 'Nelli (neither of which is very much, but way more than the Teknys).
Cycling? Once broken in both will cycle standard target loads flawlessly. If you hand load light 7/8 oz loads (like I do), you may need to up the velocity on them (I load 7/8 at 1300 fps) to ensure the SS cycles. My Teknys will cycle 7/8 at 1100 all day.
Cleaning/maintenance? The 'Nelli wins this hands down. No comparison.
Intangibles? The 'Nelli is slim, light, and an overall slick, modern gun. The Teknys is a little heavier - still slim with the OPTIMA stock, and a very nice looking gun.
Shoot them both - buy the one that doesn't leave you missing the other. I tend to shoot my 'Nelli more than the 391. A lot more to be honest - but that's just me. The 391 is the KING of the Sporting Clays range, and those guys are hard on guns.
"The 'Nelli does require a more deliberate swing, but man does it get on target fast".
That is very well put. I don't know what it is about that gun but you almost have to be careful to not overswing targets because it's such a quick gun. I would think for a sporting clays guy this would be a huge factor.
He's also right about the cleaning. So simple to clean, everything breaks down easily and you can clean every inch of the gun. I think this is one factor why these guns rarely jam.
The Benelli's are good mechanical guns. However if you're looking for the most bang for your buck....
If you like the heavier gun for better swing, go with a Beretta 391 Teknys or the Beretta Xtrema II.
If you like light and fast pointing, the new Beretta A 400 Xplor leaves every semi-auto in the dust. It's 1 lb 2 ozs lighter than the Benelli even with the kick-off recoil system. It combines the best of Benelli & Beretta into a simple easy to clean gas gun that points fast, requires no "break in period" to shoot any shell 2 3/4, 3 or 3 1/2 or any combination no problem from day 1 right out of the box! That's not all, it's also the softest shooting gun on the PLANET!
Before you buy any semi-auto, go shoot a Beretta A 400 Xplor. You won't want to stop shooting, you won't want to give it back and you'll be looking to buy one as soon as you can or as soon as you give up the try gun or rental gun!
The Benelli is hard to beat for a hunting gun, but a very poor choice for clays. They have terrible triggers, harsh recoil in comparison to a gas gun, far fewer accessories that are available and very limited stock adjustability to name a few.
Tron there you go again stating the facts. Nothing is wrong with the Benelli just does not handle well for sporting targets. And the limited accessories and adjustability leave it less desirable for the clays games. But it is an awesome gun.
The Teknys adjustable stock hardware is junk - but it is better that the stock inserts for the 'Nelli. If you can get an adjustable stock on a 'Nelli - you're in business. I sent my SBE-II stock to Tron to see if he could do anything with it, and he said no. Might be worth getting an SBE wood stock just to be able to have it cut.