[tomk2]

Because of higher costs?


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[browning.12gauge]

One reason -

This wage or $2.00 more than the state minimum wage, whichever is greater. Starting in 2021, increases to the Arizona minimum wage will be subject to increases in the cost of living in that state.

 

[JEB]

There was a debate about raising ATA fees at the BOD meeting during this year's Grand. It was defeated by a relatively close vote. The arguments in favor were that costs keep rising, especially for staff and administration - a valid argument. Those against cited rising cost of shells, gas and inflation in general. I voted against the raise, not because it was not justified, but because the ATA had very substantial earnings this past year in their investments and I thought that an increase would send a bad message to our members.

That being said, Club costs are a different matter, and please remember that Tucson is a club and not an association. Arizona has mandated increases in the minimum wage, and it is harder and harder to get workers. TTSC has a larger staff than most clubs due to its size, and they do not want to cutback on the help and general efficiency of their shoots as other venues are doing. Shooters are always wanting more and better trophies and those costs certainly have not decreased. Utility and insurance costs are rising and so forth. Clubs are not immune from the very factors behind the current rise in inflation. And one thing that you will not see at TTSC is a rip off in ammunition pricing.

Trap shooting unfortunately is not inexpensive. Our guns, ammunition and cost of either hotels or RV's are high. Unfortunately we will lose some shooters for those reasons, but the same holds true for many other recreational activities. All are luxuries, not necessities. I only hope that we have a counter balance emanating from those entering the sport. Organizations such as AIM and SCTP are more than a ray of hope as is the growth of trap shooting as a school sport. Time will tell.
JEB

 

[mallard2]

All true, but historically, Tucson has always been the most expensive place to shoot. Everywhere has increased costs, but Tucson will always lead the price increases.

The reality is, however, that the difference between 38 and 42 dollars per hundred is a minimal percentage of the total cost of trapshooting.

 

[bh]

The club gets the presquad fees

 

[DadPlus4]

Try to find volunteers for that size facility over those number of days. I’m on a committee with 8 fields and can’t find volunteer help with an 800 membership pool who rather shoot steel plate pistols.

 

[mcneeley5]

Old guys have carried trapshooting through Depressions and World Wars, go to an Indian casino or Chilis restaurant and take note of the patrons age...whine some then sign up!

 

[stockguy]

Tucson has to hire lots of temporary emplyees to run a shoot that large. It's basically a private club - not an association. They could probably cut back on temporary employees but our shooting experience would suffer. From the outside looking in I'd have to say they hold some of the most effeciently run shoots anywhere and the shooters appreciate that. Trapshooting is not an inexpensive hobby and a few bucks more for a first class experience is probably a less percentage increase than your price for shells, motels, and fuel to get there as we are experiencing right now. If you've never been there, give 'em a try. You'll enjoy it!

 

[Joe Trapalino]

Be happy to have such a wonderful facility, and the ability to shoot. Those few extra dollars aren't going to make any difference in your life. And Tucson Trap and Skeet Club provides a deluxe experience twice a year in the spring and fall. Looking forward to being there in November.

 

[peeshooter]

There was a debate about raising ATA fees at the BOD meeting during this year's Grand. It was defeated by a relatively close vote. The arguments in favor were that costs keep rising, especially for staff and administration - a valid argument. Those against cited rising cost of shells, gas and inflation in general. I voted against the raise, not because it was not justified, but because the ATA had very substantial earnings this past year in their investments and I thought that an increase would send a bad message to our members.

That being said, Club costs are a different matter, and please remember that Tucson is a club and not an association. Arizona has mandated increases in the minimum wage, and it is harder and harder to get workers. TTSC has a larger staff than most clubs due to its size, and they do not want to cutback on the help and general efficiency of their shoots as other venues are doing. Shooters are always wanting more and better trophies and those costs certainly have not decreased. Utility and insurance costs are rising and so forth. Clubs are not immune from the very factors behind the current rise in inflation. And one thing that you will not see at TTSC is a rip off in ammunition pricing.

Trap shooting unfortunately is not inexpensive. Our guns, ammunition and cost of either hotels or RV's are high. Unfortunately we will lose some shooters for those reasons, but the same holds true for many other recreational activities. All are luxuries, not necessities. I only hope that we have a counter balance emanating from those entering the sport. Organizations such as AIM and SCTP are more than a ray of hope as is the growth of trap shooting as a school sport. Time will tell.
JEB

Tucson always puts on a good shoot. It is well run venue and if that cost a little more then so be it. They should be profitable and everyone knows that costs are on the rise in every facet of life these days.

 

[ezz555]

Cost are rising everywhere. You can't print money like crazy and then not pay the consequences for it. Lets go for a higher minimum wage so we can overcome what the government pays people to stay at home. It is all tough on small businesses or any business for that matter. They are forced to raise prices as they are all in it to make a profit at the end of the day.