When can you raise your gun to your shoulder while the person to the left is shooting? . I looked ,couldn't find a definate answer. Thanks
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When can you raise your gun to your shoulder while the person to the left is shooting? . I looked ,couldn't find a definate answer. Thanks
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After the person to your left has fired. Don’t be in such an hurry, the trap has to recock itself and the score keeper has to score the hit or miss of the shooter before you. You could cause yourself a lost target. Plus you will not the same target the person before you got.
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This game is not a race, when your ready mount your gun...but if you disrupt the shooter to your left, you might just get a talking to
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I am the person on the left, that's why I'm asking
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NO.. your the shooter on the right
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If the shooter on the right is shouldering his gun before your shoot, simply lower your gun and remount after he has lowered his. Only take a couple of times before he gets the message,
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Myself I’m pretty touchy about people moving around when I’m getting ready to shoot. It helps that I’m left handed because I’ve almost got my back turned, but I can still see movement. I regularly shoot with some guys that will on occasion start to move while I’m shooting my last shot before the move. It happened today but it was a new kid so I said nothing. A couple will lock and load about the time I’m shouldering and ready to call. Usually turning around and a stare will take care of it.
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grizquad printed the rule straight from the rule book. The key words in the rule are RAISING / POINTING the gun and creating an "OBSERVABLE " distraction so, NO a shooter can't raise the gun to your shoulder until the preceding shooter has fired.
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When the person whose turn it is, is done shooting. If you have a problem at your local club, maybe have a friendly conversation when the round is over. If you have a problem at a shoot, do not say anything to the other shooter. Stop the squad, have the score keeper get a member of shoot management to the field and discuss it with them.
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I usually close my gun when I hear bang. Then shoulder the gun. Like someone else said. This is not a race, never understood why some people are such in a hurry.
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The guys at the local club asked one guy who was really bad about doing this and he said he could get the same angle target the shooter before him got therefore, he would know where to shoot. Now that might have been true on older manually loaded traps, but not true today. Even though we tried to tell him he would not get the same angle bird, he would not change his habit. We even tried to get him to sit in the trap house and watch the trap move before it reloaded after it launched a target he refused. Got to the point very few would shoot with him.
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Had it happen to me a few times. I just lowered my gun and turned to the person and said “ I’m sorry , is it your shot or mine?” Usually takes care of the problem.
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I've dealt with this before too, and what has always confused me is this: Think about how often they are correct and get the "exact" same angle based on random chance. Like what 20% of the time? maybe? they probably get an angle on the same side of the field like 50% of the time? How can you experience those levels of success with a theory and STILL think it works?
Talk about some severe confirmation bias...
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People would try to read the Winchester Hand Sets, but it is futile with Pat Traps. I always keep my barrel on my leather pad and open, until the person on my left has shot.
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Shooting in a league had various people who didn't know the right thing to do from wrong.
One day after asking the fellow to my right to please keep his gun down until after I shot, he continued to mount his gun as soon as I mounted mine.
It cost me a target (I didn't care, it was only a league) BUT I called for the target, and pulled my gun down and waited. Everyone looked at me and the scorer asked what happened ?
I told him since the guy next to me was in such a hurry, I would let him shoot my target and see how he does.
As Two Dogs stated, HE got a talking to FINALLY by the scorer, and never did those shenanigans again.
BTW, did I mention he was one of those arrogant know it all's ?
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