A year or two ago I bought a new PFS stock to try . It did,t work out well for me and I found little or no benefit . I was disappointed in the recoil and never got it just right after three months. Just way to much movement in the stock . I found it very hard to call Mr. Brown and most of the time after two or three calls gave up . The only good thing is you can sell a clean used stock fast with little loss .
I use a PFS and love it. My issue was getting it adjusted and leaving it alone. Once I had it dialed in, it has stayed the same. I did loosen up the recoil adjuster a bit when I dropped to 1 oz. loads. Otherwise, just dial it in and shoot it.
I think Mike from New Orleans that used to be a regular and valuable contributor to this site has a mega collection of PFS units, something like 8 to 10 0f them.
Love my PFS, I bought mine because of the not so large investment. Compared to a custom made stock. One thing I would have liked is a shorter grip to trigger length on mine (browning xt) I also had to add a palm swell to it. Im just used to guns with palm swells. This is a very small detail for me. I set mine as the instructions say. You basically measure your current stock specs and then set up the PFS to those specs. Then adjust as needed or not. If at all possible try some out. It took me some time to get used to the movement, especially on doubles. I bought mine 90% custom adjustability for Left handed 10% was the added recoil reduction.
First time I have ever heard a negative about Vern Brown. I think he is a great guy and I have never had a problem getting a hold of him. I liked my PFS so well I had two wood stocks made for my DT 10s and won't shoot without.
For the $ they are a great investment. If I had an extra $4000.+ I would like to try one of Pat's Stock Lock...but that won't happen soon.
That would be me.. I really love them.. BUT.. they are not for everyone.. I tell people.. READ THE BOOK... then READ THE BOOK.. then read it again.. I have about a 90% success rate for the PFS.. 10% just don't ever get use to it.. I use it for ATA.. skeet..sporting clays.. bunker and ZZ.. Flawless.. add a VDT comb for some.. not all.. and you have an unbeatable combination.. but you must READ the book.. and have a clue on stock fitting.. All Good.. Mike
The rest of the PFS are in Italy.. After they got tired of poking fun at them.. One by one.. the shooters lined up to shoot it.. Most were very impressed.. The ones that let me properly fit a stock to them..(what could an American know about stock fitting???) quickly got great results. The in house stock maker was very concerned that I was not selling them.. Yet..wanted me to fit one of his most difficult shooters.. and then make a "real" stock from the PFS that was properly adjusted.. I'll find out how that came out.. next time I go there..
On a better note.. SHOOT ONE.. Either you like it.. or you don't.. I perfer the older ones.. but I do have 3 new ones too.. If you have a really thick face.. and need a huge amount of off set.. you'll need the newer ones.. The longer VDT wooden cheekplate works excellent.. but be sure to tell Victor to make yours not to thick.. BTW.. the high top..feels really good..but it should be fit to your face.. People's bone structure is different..and so should the profile of the comb.. There is more to fitting a stock than LOP and cast on or off..
On a laughing note.. what fits just right?? your wife?? or you "friend".. That's how your stock must fit..to be at the top of your game.. You can live with the misfit for alot of reasons.. but the best fit makes you shoot better.. Ok.. I've said to much already.. but you get the idea.. All Good.. Mike BTW.. If you come to New Orleans on a week-end..I can try to get you fitted up with a PFS.. if you really want to try.. No.. I do not sell them..but without them.. I could not shoot.. I have 3 bad disc in my neck..
i require a lot of cast on and could not get enough with an adjustable comb so it was wait on a custom stock or PFS now. and the PFS has a lot more adjustments.
i like how it functions but truthfully i would prefer to look at a piece of turkish walnut.
so like steve spurrier said "if it didn't matter who won or lost they wouldn't keep score"
I think Vern gave up on the colors. I know you can get the new one with a gold anodizing on it, but I think thats as exotic as they get anymore, other than std silver. I suppose they look unique enough as it is for me w/ out having to colorize it LOL.
First I must say that Vern Brown is a class act. When I needed to talk to him he was easy to get and answer all my question on the PFS. I just sent my PFS stock back to him to check it out because I though I had a problem with it. I got the stock back in 2 days no charge. After my wife talk to Vern they found out it was the new thicker jacket that cause the problem. I would buy another stock from Vern again.
Ok. I got the stock for my wife because the Beretta stock was to long and I didn't want to cut up a EELL wood. The PFS stock was easy to adjust and the fit made my wife pick up the last 3 or 4 birds so now she can run 100 straight.( on a good day).
Recoil was not a problem with the Beretta stock so the add recoil device was a bonus. If you really want a stock the fits get one. I my self like a nice piece of wood but you just don't have the adjustments that make a good gun better.