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Any love for the Winchester Model 50?

1.2K views 18 replies 11 participants last post by  Maxey Brantley  
#1 · (Edited)
Today I dug deep into the back of the vault and pulled out a shotgun that I hadn't shot in many, many years. It's an old 12ga, Winchester mod 50 with a 28", donut-post vent-rib barrel, with a fixed Mod choke.
So, it became my "gunning tool" this morning ... when we took a couple of our young GWP's out for some "steadiness" training using pen-raised chukars and pigeons.

And I must say ... that old Mod 50 is an absolute cream puff to shoot! I'd actually forgotten about how soft-shooting that gun used to be when it was in my regular bird hunting rotation, about 20 yrs or so ago. I was using some Federal,3-dram, Top Guns (1 1/8oz) trap loads, because they were just the easiest for me to grab as I was going out the door.

But I was very pleasantly shocked this morning at the incredibly soft recoil, 'cause it had been so darned long since I've shot it.

And now, I'm planning to put it right back into my pheasant gun rotation again because It's just way too nice of a shooter to remain in the safe. And yes, it's by no means a lightweight gun by today's standards (guessing about 7 1/2+ lbs?) ... but for some of the shorter hunts of the day, I can manage that just fine!

So, does anyone else out there shoot one of these old girls on occasion?

I may actually have to keep my eyes peeled for one of these in a trap-gun configuration. And perhaps it's maybe time we started bringing more of the old stuff back out to the range. I consider Mod 50's to be among one of the most forgotten semi-auto guns out there (or NOT out there) ... and it's kind of a shame because it was a rather important gun for Winchester, back in the day, because prior to its introduction, Winchester's reputation for producing reliable semi-auto shotguns wasn't good! And T.G. Bennett (from Winchester) had only himself to blame, because he refused to accept John Browning's terms concerning the manufacture of his "new" Auto-5 shotgun. To me, it's all very fascinating history, and why I'm so drawn to the old American classics like this.
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#3 · (Edited)
My Dad bought this in 1953 and gave me his 1926 Nickel Steel Model 12. The Model 50 probably has less than 1000 rounds fired and it is Not for sale: It started life as a field gun
and the Full Choke barrel measures 29" from muzzle to receiver. The ventilated rib also has donut posts. I laminated a block of walnut to the comb so it fits me just right.

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#4 ·
I have a nice Model 50 trap gun in my trap rotation. Heavy gun (due to its inertia innards), but a nice shooting, reliable piece. My guess is that it wasn’t more successful due to its weight and the marginally complicated method of adjusting the action.

“True” Model 50 trap guns had a special floating chamber with a “nub” built into it that deflected empties to the shooters feet. My chamber must be a replacement since it isn’t made that way - and I’ve looked but never found one of those trap chambers for sale. I put one of those wire bail shell catchers on mine.

Just went and looked at mine - rectangular VR posts.
 
#5 ·
I just had my model 50 out this week looking it over. Its the light model with the aluminum reciever that pre dates the model 59. Mine to is 28 inch modified but has a Simmons rib. Wolf still makes a recoil spring for it and the 59 and it's not a bad idea to replace it. That spring is 65 to 70 years old.
 
#6 ·
Good idea Smitty! I know that the old recoil and action springs on all my Belgium A5's and Rem 11's had all become just a little bit shorter through the years, so I replaced them with new ones. The difference in felt recoil "after" the spring changes made it worth every single penny!
But on the Mod 50 ... do you recall the spring change process being especially tricky? Apparently, if not done correctly the "timing" of the action becomes thrown off in some way? I'd probably better consult YouTube before I dive into that.
 
#7 ·
“Winchester Model 50 bolt timing adjustment
Check gun is empty
Close the bolt.
Remove butt-pad
Remove wishbone wire clip
With bolt closed, back off aluminum,screw plug with large slot, until the bolt will not stay locked in the open position.
When you get to that point, reverse the process screwing it in till the bolt locks back.

Place your finger on the operating handle and pull back and see how far the bolt will travel to the rear from that locked position.

By adjusting the aluminum plug 1/4 turn at a time till the bolt locks and you have approximately 1/16"-1/8" inch of rear bolt travel from the locked position. Sometimes you can hit the mark on the first try. Sometimes it takes a couple tries to get it right. When re-inserting the wire clip, make sure it goes into the set of holes in line with the slotted plug closest to the adjustment."

make sure the stock is secure but not over tightened. Its tightened by the large aluminum housing that holds the action spring. Make sure the stock is just snug FIRST! Do not over tighten! Then make the above adjustments!! Then your gun is properly timed and should last for quite some time, watch for the hulls being thrown a farther distance, a sure sign it needs timed!

Do not file off the ejector! I've seen some closet gunsmiths that suggest this as a fix but it's a death knell for both these guns!!“
 
#8 ·
A friend of mine who passed two years ago had one in a 20ga. I would have loved to have it but what happened with his estate I've no idea? I shot it a few times in my teen years. It was a real solid built gun. I've often heard them referred to as the Model 12 of the semi world.
 
#16 ·
Mod 50s are the great gun , i have several of the them from trap guns to 20ga upland configurations that i have killed (and missed) many woodcock!
Even had Simmons gun build a custom 20ga about 10 years ago.
Love ‘em till its time to reassemble after a thorough cleaning!
 
#17 ·
Mod 50s are the great gun , i have several of the them from trap guns to 20ga upland configurations that i have killed (and missed) many woodcock!
Even had Simmons gun build a custom 20ga about 10 years ago.
Love ‘em till its time to reassemble after a thorough cleaning!
 
#18 ·
Mod 50s are the great gun , i have several of the them from trap guns to 20ga upland configurations that i have killed (and missed) many woodcock!
Even had Simmons gun build a custom 20ga about 10 years ago.
Love ‘em till its time to reassemble after a thorough cleaning!