[mallard2]

My thought has been from the outset of the ammo shortage that profits drive markets.
Pandemic, politics, hording, etc. are all contributing factors, true.
But it appears that what we were willing to pay $5.00 or $6.00 a box for a year ago, is now readily snapped up for $7.50 or $8.00 now. That's a 33% increase in a year. If that was gas, milk, or the electric bill, we would be screaming.
So, whoever makes money from ammunition got a huge increase in the price point consumers are willing to pay, in just over a year. Whatever the reasons, the change in what people will pay has occurred and is here to stay, it looks like.

 

[spitter]

There may be a segment of folks snapping up shells and reloading components at substantially increased pricing, however I wont be one of them... I will shoot less to stay within my budget...

 

[Carl_in_NH]

If that was gas, milk, or the electric bill, we would be screaming.

Been to the supermarket lately? What was $100 before the pandemic is now $130-$135 and has been for some time. Inflation quickly took hold for the items you need to survive, and hasn't shown any signs of backing down. Ammo fits nicely into the same category of 'items you need to survive'.

 

[flashmax]

LGS down the street has .38 spl for only $2 per round. $100/50 round box. No shotgun ammo. No primers. But what’s new?

 

[Dustydoo]

The ammo makers price is not the selling price for the most part.
Walmart is still selling Federals for $22.36 or so / 100 pack
Some people are buying second hand , and others are independent retailers gouging while they can.
Most high prices are internet finds.

 

[billkgun]

Been to the supermarket lately? What was $100 before the pandemic is now $130-$135 and has been for some time. Inflation quickly took hold for the items you need to survive, and hasn't shown any signs of backing down. Ammo fits nicely into the same category of 'items you need to survive'.

Thank all the Dumbocrats who voted for Sleepy Joe and the Ho.

 

[traviszam]

Every time the Government prints money they don't have (stimulus checks for example) it causes inflation that devalues every dollar out there. Inflation lowers your buying power meaning you're going to pay more for everything. Companies
will always pass their increased costs onto the consumer. After Biden's "Infrastructure Bill?" passes we'll see even more increased costs for everything.

 

[WadHopper]

Every time the Government prints money they don't have (stimulus checks for example) it causes inflation that devalues every dollar out there. Inflation lowers your buying power meaning you're going to pay more for everything. Companies
will always pass their increased costs onto the consumer. After Biden's "Infrastructure Bill?" passes we'll see even more increased costs for everything.

This is different...

Sure the value of a buck is dwindling but not as fast as ammo rose. Go support your local dealer and find out just how much they're there for us...$0.30/rd for .22lr. BS. WST are $15/bx here at our local scalper, um I mean mom and pop.

See you at Walmart.

 

[traviszam]

I see that the Remington ammo factory is running full tilt at Arkansas. Went to their website. They show 12 gauge Gun Club target ammo at $10.99 a box.

 

[Citori_cx]

Nope not here. My pistols and shotguns are sitting and have been sitting idle for awhile now. The 1k or so rounds of 9 and 300-400 rounds of sporting shot shell ammo are sitting too. The good news is I have a 177 cal pcp air rifle coming and a 22 cal will be soon to follow. Different ways to feed the shooting bug.


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[Citori_cx]

I see that the Remington ammo factory is running full tilt at Arkansas. Went to their website. They show 12 gauge Gun Club target ammo at $10.99 a box.

They can shove right up their err I won’t finish that sentence.


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[mallard2]

This is different...

Sure the value of a buck is dwindling but not as fast as ammo rose. Go support your local dealer and find out just how much they're there for us...$0.30/rd for .22lr. BS. WST are $15/bx here at our local scalper, um I mean mom and pop.

See you at Walmart.

I think you are right, Flash. This is different. Ammo has risen much faster than inflation. To say it's just inflation is justifying the high ammo prices that we are now living with.
My thought on Wal
Mart is that if they never or seldom have any ammunition to sell, they can price it pretty cheap.

 

[blackandgold]

Well, West Virginia just stopped sales tax on guns and ammo so it is not all bad. And no, most of the people buying volume are not getting destroyed on prices. Most of us have relationships and price increases are marginal. Heck, some got B&P F2 machs for $72 a flat out the door. That's lower than I've ever seen, even at wholesale.

Now if you buy a few flats at a time, I suppose waddling on down Wal Mart is the thing to do. Speed waddling is becoming it's sport in its own right.

 

[flashmax]

I think you are right, Flash. This is different. Ammo has risen much faster than inflation. To say it's just inflation is justifying the high ammo prices that we are now living with.
My thought on Wal
Mart is that if they never or seldom have any ammunition to sell, they can price it pretty cheap.

That was @WadHopper but I concur.

 

[Rabbit-hunter]

I would expect prices to always be higher than what we saw then a year or so ago.
Part of it relates to our gov't printing money (stimulus checks), part of it is demand and willingness of those with little or no ammo to buy whatever they can get. But those are most often much more casual shooters and their buying will peter out before long. I venture to bet another factor is the materials demand that the manufacturers had to contend with caused them yo pay higher prices which we all know gets passed on to us. If the demand and material availability stabilizes, we may see price come back down just a little bit..maybe.
Either way all we can do is either suck it up and cut somewhere else to shoot or shoot less to stay within budgets

 

[Argentina]

020-Nov	11/02	2.071	11/09	2.030	11/16	2.023	11/23	2.069	11/30	2.075
2020-Dec	12/07	2.195	12/14	2.178	12/21	2.251	12/28	2.245
2021-Jan	01/04	2.246	01/11	2.341	01/18	2.352	01/25	2.434
2021-Feb	02/01	2.407	02/08	2.517	02/15	2.499	02/22	2.650
2021-Mar	03/01	2.646	03/08	2.754	03/15	2.904	03/22	2.962	03/29	2.912
2021-Apr	04/05	2.881

The above chart is off the US Energy Information Agency web page.

Nov. 03 2020 was election day...regular gas was $2.07 per gallon

April 05, 2020 --- regular gas is $2.88 per gallon

This is a 39.1% increase in 5 short months.....but I don't see thread after thread talking about gas prices. Bet you buy gas more often than you buy shells.

 

[Rick Barker]

020-Nov	11/02	2.071	11/09	2.030	11/16	2.023	11/23	2.069	11/30	2.075
2020-Dec	12/07	2.195	12/14	2.178	12/21	2.251	12/28	2.245
2021-Jan	01/04	2.246	01/11	2.341	01/18	2.352	01/25	2.434
2021-Feb	02/01	2.407	02/08	2.517	02/15	2.499	02/22	2.650
2021-Mar	03/01	2.646	03/08	2.754	03/15	2.904	03/22	2.962	03/29	2.912
2021-Apr	04/05	2.881

The above chart is off the US Energy Information Agency web page.

Nov. 03 2020 was election day...regular gas was $2.07 per gallon

April 05, 2020 --- regular gas is $2.88 per gallon

This is a 39.1% increase in 5 short months.....but I don't see thread after thread talking about gas prices. Bet you buy gas more often than you buy shells.

Quite true, but gas traded on commodities market world wide which causes price fluctuation. Shell pricing dependent on materials, production, transportation costs and demand. Normally demand is less than it is now. Not the same thing.

 

[flashmax]

Quite true, but gas traded on commodities market world wide which causes price fluctuation. Shell pricing dependent on materials, production, transportation costs and demand. Normally demand is less than it is now. Not the same thing.

Plus. Gasoline is readily available on almost every corner and big box grocery store. No shortages or flat out denial of product.

 

[AusAmateur]

It's strange. We haven't seen a massive spike in anything except house and land prices, OTHER than ISSF shotgun ammo.

Some types of ammo are scarce, but most sporting shotgun ammo isn't. Prices are up MAYBE 4-5% from when I started (2017). Back then I was told "$100 a slab or less is an OK price". My club now sells decent ammo at $100-105. I can still get 1300 28 g (1oz) for $100. 1170-1250s are $95-110 depending on brand and dealer margin.

Of course the LGS are gouging, charging up to $150, but no-one in the know shops there. Almost all the regular trap/skeet/sporting shooters patronise their club or a local ammo dealer who travels the club circuit.

As I said, the exception is ISSF shotgun ammo, for Olympic skeet and trap (bunker). 24g at 1300++ CAN be had for $105-115 but the shot quality is unknown. The last few slabs of good stuff I bought were $125 and people who fly to interstate comps, and therefore have to buy onsite, are paying north of $130. I suspect this is partly because this ammo is fully imported and freight costs have skyrocketed.

 

[o-hale]

We all, well most of us, have a price point that we will pay. If it goes over that amount we either will not pay it or will shoot less than normal.