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I was given ten bags of these wads. They are black appear to be for 1 1/8oz loads. The data on the bag is worn off. If anyone could help with some load data that would be great. I don't want to just throw them out.

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Why not compare the black wads with some wads that you have info on. See if you can find one that has the same dimensions. HMB
 

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It looks like the old HAWK brand they were made in the 60s (in Illinois) then discontinued then came back again a few yrs. ago. Don't know if they're still available. If this is what they are,, we used them same as AAs.Ross
 

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My guess is Hawk.

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It's similar to the HAWK but the "X" section in the Hawk was all one piece. This one looks like the middle of the 'cross' is not connected. I may be mistaken but I think Down Range wound up with the Hawk molds. Kevin, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Doug Whiton, P/W dealer/dist

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I still hve a couple of bags under the bench. Works just like a AA's in old AA hulls or Rems. You reminded me, I haven't shot these in awhile..I'll dig them out and give them another try.

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Thanks for the info. I will try to load some up using some AA data and see how it goes.
 

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These wads were made by a small company in Morrison,IL. I have some of the original bags they came in. I believe the loading data was on them. Send me your contact info and I'll get you a copy. I always loaded them the same as AA wads.
 

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This wad looks more like a "Black Magic" than a Hawk to me. If so they didn't require the same amount of powder to acheive desired velocity.
 
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