[bill1064]

I'd like to see what folks are loading with American Select for 1 oz. loads. Got this powder now and want to try it out. I also only have Win 209 primers. The Alliant Powder website only has a recipe for Rem209's. Here is what they list

STS Hulls 1 oz. 1200fps American Select CB 1100-12 19.5gr for 7,500psi

I want to use this exact recipe except with Win209's. Anybody use Win209's for this 1 oz load? Thanks.

 

[pheasantmaster]

Probably slightly more pressure and minimal velocity, but you'll be fine.

 

[GamesGuy]

From Alliant website
20.5 grns AS WITH CB-1100-12 wad.....AAHS hull. WW209 primer
1250 fps
Proof tested on Clays course.... it's a crusher!

 

[Goody313]

I have been loading American Select 1oz. Loads AA hulls 18 grains with Nobel primers are same as Winchester 209 works nice 1145 fps

 

[slickhead]

Drop 19-19.2 grains for the load you are looking for.
Have loaded lots and lots of American Select.
If you want satisfaction stay at as close to 19 grains as you can,
If you drop below 19 grains you will definitely tell the difference in performance.

When you drop 19.5 plus you can tell the difference in the recoil.
It will start getting your attention!!!
Good powder but doesn’t meter well well.

 

[Nebs]

I have been loading American Select 1oz. Loads AA hulls 18 grains with Nobel primers are same as Winchester 209 works nice 1145 fps View attachment 1755514

Well, that's certainly an interesting interpretation of the Hodgdon manual. It says the NS primer can "safely" be substituted for the Win 209 primer. But it does not say "are the same." My interpretation is they are a "weaker" primer than the Win 209. That's the only way to view a blanket statement like that. And use the NS primers at your peril in US made hulls as they are oversized and will stretch the primer pockets.

 

[Kookie]

You’ll be fine with that load. American Select is one of my favorite powders. Burns clean and low recoil. I load for 3 so for me it’s not an economical powder due to the heavier drops needed to get the velocity. For 1 ounce I switched to ClayDo and i now use American Select for my 1 1/8 oz handicap loads

 

[NCSCOO]

I have been loading American Select 1oz. Loads AA hulls 18 grains with Nobel primers are same as Winchester 209 works nice 1145 fps View attachment 1755514

Where is this chart from?

 

[116B1]

Where'd you even find it, you lucky duck? Alliant recipes tend to match primer with hull manufacturer only. Could be the only way they are shown. I'm a stick to the book guy myself. I like my gun and face.

 

[slickhead]

Please understand that in the reference that I made was using Winchester 209 primers not a substitute. I also referring to the load recommendation where Alliant called for 19.5 grains.
In no way would I ever use NS primers.
Oversized!!!!

 

[Goody313]

They work good for me your right once you use the novels you can't reuse other primers in those hulls

Their the only ones I was able to get at the time

 

[Claypoppy]

They work good for me your right once you use the novels you can't reuse other primers in those hulls

Their the only ones I was able to get at the time

Then I wouldn't reload until I could get something different.

I've been in the game a long time, and I've seen a lot. One of the things is the fact that I've seen more shooters have problems with Noble Sport shells than ANY other brand.

I won't shoot their shells, and I'm sure not going to use their primers.

I'm sure others will come along soon and tell me how NS primers are fine. Those seem to be the same guys that can't seem to find anything else.

If they could, wouldn't be using NS primers!!!

Good Luck and Good Shooting!

 

[Goody313]

I have friends that use Nobels no problems with them and I know another guy that reloads Nobel hulls 3x with Nobel primers he's a AA Shooter and loads alot I'm not trying to start an argument with you Good Shooting

 

[gbrendemuehl]

I have substituted W209 for REM209 is several loads, had them tested and speed and pressure showed little difference from the published load. Since your starting load is at 7500psi, I can't see how you would have a high pressure problem.

 

[Claypoppy]

I have friends that use Nobels no problems with them and I know another guy that reloads Nobel hulls 3x with Nobel primers he's a AA Shooter and loads alot I'm not trying to start an argument with you Good Shooting

I'm not trying to start an argument either, just stating what I've seen over the years.

I have no doubt that there are folks out there using NS primers and like the results, but that doesn't change my opinion on them or NS shells.

I'll just end this with something I've said many times in regards to reloading....Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

Good Luck and Good Shooting!

 

[burgy]

I use 19 gr. of American Select, Winchester WT12 wad, Cheddite primer, 1 oz. 7 1/2 in a AA hull..1200fps. Smokes em all the way back to the 27 yd line.