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I appreciate the efforts of the ATA to promote registered youth shooting. My comment could have two very different interpretations but, I only intended one.

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SW, i read it quite differently.

Sounds like AIM has taken off smoother, faster and better than they planned for - - and it's SOUND JUDGEMENT for the ATA to pass these 'savings' on to its AIM participants!


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Yes, thanks to the EC for including the AIM kids in the Grand! The idea was to put the AIM Grand Championship on a weekend to minimize time away from school for the kids and away from work for the coaches/parents, yet allow those not in school to come early and/or stay late and participate not only in the AIM Grand Championship but in Prelim Week and the Grand! The reduction in fees will allow more people to participate and, as Neil points out, the information in on the home page of www.aim4ata.com. I can receive your questions at [email protected]
 

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ATA trap fees at all shoots need to be lowered significantly if the bleeding is to stop. (No replies required).

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Jon -

Sorry, you are going to get one anyway . . . you really think that $2 for the whole day is too high of a fee to pay the ATA, and that will stop the bleeding? I can honestly say that I can't recall anyone complaining about the $2 daily fee - I've heard complaints about most other stuff - cost of shells, costs of targets, costs of getting to/staying at the shoot, time away from home.

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I clearly said trap fees, not the ATA fees. The cost of shooting in general is the reason attendance will nosedive again.
 

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Jon: Suppose you figure out how to throw targets for less money rather than complain about it. Who do you want to take the loss?? Along as it isn't you. No one likes the rising cost but you sound like you feel it is the ATA and club's fault. You looking for an ATA bail out of the shooters??

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Don...

How about we send Reitz our clubs shooting costs and he can reimburse us. Then we can offer the shooters a lower cost at the next shoot.

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BIGDON & grnberetcj,

I did not complain about anything, but I did state a simple fact. Everyone has the right to either attend, pay the money, and shoot registered targets, or not. A lot of us made the conscious choice not to shoot them anymore due to those higher target fees.

Attendance figures are in fact down. I believe that registered shooting will continue to suffer due to escalating target fees. Is that plain enough for you? You two need to carefully re-read what I posted before you attack my character again. You remind me of the federal government. PM me with your phone number(s) and we can damn sure set you straight.

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There is nothing wrong with my comprehension. Again how do they lower the costs?? I regret that you cannot afford to shoot but the local clubs or the ATA don't have anything to do with that. You say I sound like the government, well I don't sound like I'm looking for a handout.

Why should reduced numbers surprise you or anyone else?? Have you checked economic conditions lately??

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Maybe we should consider the costs. Some clubs can throw practice targets for 3.00 per 25 or 12.00 per hundred. That is considering a lot of voluntary help. For a registered event, factor in the costs of extra trap help.The kids scoring dont usually want to spend the whole day sitting in a chair watching clays for nothing. Also most shooters want something if they win, trophy, flat of shells, something. That costs money. A registered round usually costs the shooter about 28.00. Do the math. 28.00 less 12.00 for the target, less 2.00 per shooter for scorer, less X dollar for trophy, then figure in the maintenance of grounds, building, utilities, and last but not least, 2.00 for ATA, and 1.00 for state association. That doesent leave much for left overs. If I had a business anymore It shure wouldn't a trap range that shot nothing but registered targets. And on top of that, what would you have to be paid to listen to the plethora of bitching that usually goes on. Most are quite happy, but there is always one that isn't. Just my .02$ We are fortunate too have a lot of people that are dedicated to this sport enough to provide their services gratis, or we couldn't afford to shoot for sure.

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