AAs came out in the early 60s, excellent hulls I used them a little while. I think they (12s & 20s) came out at the same time, yes the 20s were originally red I still have 1\2 a target box of the red ones, don't remember when they went to yellow some time after Federal because Fed. was the 1st. to color code shells. After that every time they changed the formula of the plastic they got worse, to what you see today, junk. A friend had one shoot off yesterday, brass stayed in the chamber complete plastic part went about 8" up the bbl. what we finally got pushed out-with a dowel rod- was still crimped shut, looked like an Active hull, never did find the primer--the primer did go off because there was smoke & fire out of the breach on his S.B.T. Thank GOD for safety glasses, that's the first one that I've personally seen happen but have heard many stories & seen the remains of the hulls. That's all I can remember. Ross Puls
ross , you think the first win AA hulls were red plastic? i have some one sending me some that he said was just that. i have seen red rem and win mark5 , paper and plastic, but no AA . it would be something to set in the reloading room. thanks
Winchester changed the color of there 20ga. shells from red to yellow in 1971. I was in the Navy stationed in Guam and I first started with red and then at the end of 1971, I was shooting all yellow. The change was made for safety reasons as you can imagine. I gave most of mine away, but still have a few.
They changed because some idiots confused a 20ga with a 12ga and shoved a 20 in the chamber of a 12 ga shotgun....KABOOM! with the next loading. Probably a skeetie. I'll bet he shat his TuTu when that happened.
Well i have a Red 20ga hull in my collection. It's not Winchester AA but it is A Western Xpert which i believe was made by Winchester. It is a ribbed plastic hull. I am unsure on the date of the hull but obviously pre-yellow.--Matt
I'll have to look a little harder. So far have found these. All 20 gauges. Right to left Peters plastic, American Eagle paper, JC Higgins paper and the rest misc Westerns and Winchesters.If any one has a full AA 20 I would like to have one. PM me if you do. Paul
Does anyone still have any of the "old" 12ga. AA's that were black. I remember my grandfather complaining when he had worn out the last of his black ones. He always said they were the best hull he had ever used.
I still have about a half dozen black handicap shells left from a box I bought in Independence Iowa during a league shoot in the early summer of 1973. Obviously they have spent a good deal of time sitting loaded up in a box somewhere in my "stash".
"Hopefully" here's a shot of a MTM "Bullet Board" I have of 42 different versions of Winchester and/or Western shotgun shells. I have another one with the newere 2-piece styles as well as variations of 20 gauge shells, with a RED 20 gauge like people were talking about earlier. Even a Gold AA (from Australia) and a couple of other unique shells. Hope y'all enjoy the pics.
Mike Hessong* (MH*)
Victoria (Texas) Skeet and Trap Club