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Watched Fox News (Cavuto) at 4:00 p.m. today; said that Illegal Aliens would be eligible to receive refund money because the Stimulus Bill does not require a Social Security Number in order to qualify. Let me get this straight, our generation plus future gererations have to pay taxes in order to pay Illegal Aliens monies because they're just here? The Democrat Consultant, after Cavuto constantly querried her, finally admitted that this was the right thing to do. Whether you voted for Obama or not, this is wrong, wrong & wrong. We'll, did you ever think a Stimulus Bill would be written to reward those who are illegally in this country? I believe those who wrote it are buying votes. BT-100dc
 

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What's the problem, liberals???? Pipe in here and defend your socialist people and president.


Money going to Trojan, the condom company,,and money to re-sod some lawn????!!!!

How do you like him now???????


slick willie's former adviser, Dick Morris, wrote that Hussein's name will be MUD in four years, possibly as soon as two. The liberals will be in the same boat. I've seen nothing that changes that.
 

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I called my congressman and thank him for not voteing for it.More should do this to show support. Dave
 

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From what I have seen so far on the stimulus no one is getting a check. The refunds are in your income tax filings, so to my knowledge you have to have a ssn to file your federal income tax. If you have a ssn you must be a citizen not an illegal. I'm not for either party, but if I am wrong on this don't take it out on me just my thoughts on the situation.
 

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I don't understand how it would be possible for our government to distribute money to anyone without an SSN, whether it is in the form of a tax refund or just a check. That number is the way they keep track of us. The phoney SSNs used by some illegals to get jobs don't identify those persons to the government. (thats why they use phoney numbers). Ever try dealing with a governmental agency without your SSN?
 

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Wolfram....you need a tax id number. Look at a w-2. The employer has a tax id number. One can normally tell by the first number of ones SSN where in the country the number was obtained. Midwest starting number 3 or 4. Westcoast 5or6
northeast 0 or 1.
 

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Our state has 2 senators, Webb & Warner, both dems. I wrote both asking to vote against it. Warner's office replied; ( cut & paste )...

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Thank you for contacting me with your views on the economic stimulus package. In order to best represent you as your United States Senator, it is vital that I hear your view on this and other important matters.


We have received numerous responses from across the Commonwealth from those both in favor of the stimulus and those opposed. I understand concerns about the expense of the bill and about certain provisions included in the package. Although no effort on this scale will be perfect, President Obama and the relevant Congressional committees have been in close consultation with our state and local officials and a wide range of economic experts who have indicated that this agreement represents a prudent and effective path to economic recovery. To do nothing could lead to catastrophic consequences for small businesses and working families across the country.



The committees drafting the legislation have provided for unprecedented oversight, accountability and transparency to ensure that taxpayers' money is handled carefully and used in the most efficient and effective manner possible. You should know that a Recovery Act and Transparency Board will oversee the disbursement of the funds and a website provided by the White House, www.recovery.gov, will post detailed information about recovery spending.



Again, thank you for your input. As we move forward in the 111th Congress, please continue to be in touch with your opinions and concerns.


Sincerely,
MARK R. WARNER
United States Senator

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OK, here's what makes me steamed... I can see that He has already made up his mind on the vote, no matter what his people think. A letter I would have been satisfied with would be like " Thanks for contacting me, I will analyze ALL input from my people, then render an appropriate vote".... Or something like that. They could give a Crap....

Rick L.
 

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It's nor a "refund" it is just free money. Most of the people who will get these checks haven't paid anything in to get a refund from.

Oh, and you think you need a real SS #? Go take a look at who is in the welfare lines and the hospital emergency rooms.
 

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Illegals are coming out pretty sweet from this deal. Not only money direct from the government but more jobs on government construction projects. It is a great time to be a Mexican living in America.
 

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You watch, before it is all over with, Mexico's gov't will collapse and Obama will offer to make Mexico a State. He obviously don't care what stuff costs...
 

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I have thought about taking what little is left of my retirement and going to live in Mexico. I figure the country has to be about empty now. Two coastlines, great fishing and hunting. Good weather. Living in America I am already familiar with Mexican food, music, women, television and Spanish. With Obama in power I am going to have to get used to crime and corruption.
 

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The Democrat Strategist on Fox News indicated that Social Security Numbers were not needed as they could use any Payroll numbers; the trick is not having to use the SSN. Don't think a minute that illegals won't end up with a refund (or payout). This, among other stupid spending, will create hardships for our generation and future generations. It's not free and the final costs are always underestimated. Stop the insanity. BT-100dc
 
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