Thebigski--No I live in NW Ohio. I know of several Dolls in the Hanover area. Charlie Doll + a son & a daughter. Met them in Vandalia a few years back. Don't know if they still shoot. Charlie's health was not good. Clyde Doll
I shot it, remington supplied the shells, there were Kolars, 1100,s and cynergys, I had last pick, the kolars were gone so I grabbed a browning, shot a 21 and 23, highest score I saw was on the board a 49.. I switched chokes and shot a full.. I can tell you they broke the clays as good as the my 12 does..
28 Gauge Winners List: Champion Larry Grenevicki (49)Runner Up Bob Ternes (49) Third Joel Etchen (48)AAA MIchael Hughes (47)AA Larry Telfer (48) A Dennis Early (47) B Tim Kniffen (47) C Rily Parmenter (47)D David Rearden (47) Sr. Veteran Clayborn Hunter (46) Veteran James Butler (48) Lady Diane Peyton (45) Junior Lucas Koch(48) Sub-Jr. Ian Recla (49)The event was sponsored by White Flyer, Hodgdon, Kolar, Remington and Browning.
Code5, people say they mess because the pattern is so poor that a bird flies through it. That's why they shoots Krieghoffs and not Mossbergs.
Now, if what you're saying is correct, that there's no excuse for missing with a 28, then why not handicap by gauge? Why not have the top rank events shoot exclusively from the back line with 28's and .410's?
Looking at these scores, you have to ask, do I really need a 12 gauge especially from the 16 yard line? The answer is no. If you put a 28 gauge in the hands of a capable shooter, they'll break targets. I've shot nothing but the 28 gauge for the past year including trap, skeet , sporting clays, FITASC, bunker, and helice. Believe me, if you put the gun in the right spot the target will break. I've made too many second shot kills in FITASC that were every bit of 60 yards to believe any different.
While handicapping by gauge does seem to solve the problem, there is one major factor in doing this..........MONEY.
28 gauge and 410 bullets cost much more than good 12 bullets. Making certain shooters use a 28 or 410 would be unfair because they would be paying much more for ammo. Yes, you could make an argument that they have won more money or have a sponsor and can therefor afford it, but that's a stretch.
It would have to be cheaper to reload the small stuff. Less powder and less lead, and the shells are purchased infrequently.
I'd like ATA to throw at the same speed as International Trap, at which point the 12 gauge could be used, as is. Presently, it's not sporting enough to see guys shoot hundred upon hundred straight. There's nothing wrong with a 94 beating a 89.