[TALLEND]

Sirs---general opinion is to stay away from a .22LR "insert" conversion,and to go with a complete .22LR "UPPER"--------------OK,who makes them?---who makes the best?--------------Addresses for information??????

Thanks,Tom

 

[maclellan1911]

I have considered this option myself. Now what I hear is the insert on the standard uppers work fine. Who makes the best????? What I here is that the twist rate is a bit fast for the little 22lr. What I have been told is a dedicated 22upper is a good deal better. Has the proper twist rate does not need the gas tube. You can shoot any old 22lr you can find. Most of the guys I have found that actually own 22conversions or uppers use them for handling drills and trigger practice. I was getting ready to order one of these 22 uppers, but I decided to order another 223 upper instead. in hind sight I might have went with a 9mm upper or even a 7.62x39......Problem being is the lack of magazines and if you live in a restricted no high cap mag state even harder to find. For the 400.00 or more you will pay and wait for AR upper you can buy a ruger 10/22 and pimp it out. also try AR15.com SOOO MUCH info you may just loose interest. I ordered a AR just before the buying frenzy, not planned that way. I had been saving all year for one. I intended to build my own but just was not working out. DPMS, model 1 , and a few highend match grade makers out there. AR15.com has that info try above link

 

[jm1079]

I had purchased a dedicated upper and after about a week of shooting it, I realized that all I really wanted was to shoot my ar-15 at an indoor range and that the conversion unit I had worked for me as well. Ended up selling the upper to someone who had a non 223 upper. At the moment, there are a couple of these uppers listed in Gun Broker. FWIW. jm

 

[jm1079]

I had purchased a dedicated upper and after about a week of shooting it, I realized that all I really wanted was to shoot my ar-15 at an indoor range and that the conversion unit I had worked for me as well. Ended up selling the upper to someone who had a non 223 upper. At the moment, there are a couple of these uppers listed in Gun Broker. FWIW. jm

 

[jm1079]

I had purchased a dedicated upper and after about a week of shooting it, I realized that all I really wanted was to shoot my ar-15 at an indoor range and that the conversion unit I had worked for me as well. Ended up selling the upper to someone who had a non 223 upper. At the moment, there are a couple of these uppers listed in Gun Broker. FWIW. jm

 

[Shooter R]

For general practice out to 100 yards a Ciener Conversion unit will genraly work very well in most AR-15's. If you have an M-16, he makes a full auto model. In any case I'd get the 30 round magazine unit as it is a lot of fun. A friend bought a "dedicated upper" for considerably more money and it was somewhat of a disapointment, as it did not work much better than the the Ciener "insert type" unit. As a side note... most 22's do prefer certain types of ammo. In my Ciener I have the best accuracy, (plus or minus 2" at 50 yds,) with winchester wildcats. The more expensive, plated super x 22's also work very well. Remington thunderbolts, in several of my guns, are terrible. They fouled up a ruger 22-45 so bad I though it ruined the barrel.