[Tron]

Here are 2 guns of mine. One is a K80 Pro Sporter 32" and the other a Zoli HR 32". Both are set up identical, yet the Z gun has considerably less perceived lead (doesn't matter left or right). In other words, I don't have to lead a target nearly as much with the Z gun as I do the K gun. I can't figure this one out.

 

[Gamba Man]

Different rib widths possibly may give an illusion/perception of different lead ?

 

[joe kuhn]

Are the stock measurements the same?

 

[Tron]

Are the stock measurements the same?

Same.

 

[Western Shooter]

Lawsuit, although not sure who you should sue. Possibly your eye doctor.

 

[Pull & Mark]

I'll get the popcorn. Spit!!! break em all Jeff

 

[CharlieAMA]

Maybe your crown shifted. Try a ballcap.

 

[Gamba Man]

Nice stock hardware ... who did the work 😎

 

[Shuck M.]

words

 

[RayBoucek]

lock time

 

[flashmax]

Here are 2 guns of mine. One is a K80 Pro Sporter 32" and the other a Zoli HR 32". Both are set up identical, yet the Z gun has considerably less perceived lead (doesn't matter left or right). In other word, I don't have to lead a target nearly as much with the Z gun as I do the K gun. I can't figure this one out.

Z gun is Perazzi copy? P guns are rumored to be faster to the target than K guns so if it is a good copy the Z will swing better.

 

[Garry]

Swing speed on the Zoli is faster than Krieghoff.

 

[jeff348]

Triggers or lock time. Faster triggers require getting farther into the target before pulling the trigger. Some people shoot higher point of aim on trap guns with faster locktimes

 

[Dukefan]

How do they compare to your Tri-Star?

 

[Carl_in_NH]

'Z', being the final letter in the alphabet, doesn't have nearly the lead of any letters which come before it.

 

[Tron]

words

You are a dyslexic Troll. Read it again.

 

[Boxo53]

Rib heights the same, relative to the bore axis? Any chance of the dreaded canting? As I get older and stiffer (in the neck), I fight canting more...

 

[skeet_man]

I'm curious if there is an eventual answer.

A few years ago I set up a Remington 1100. It was as identical as it could feasibly be made to my over/under in every aspect. The SOLE difference was the 1100 had the regular 8mm rib, but the o/u had a 12-8mm rib.

I never could figure it out, and eventually ended up giving up, but on some targets I just couldn't see a clean lead and sight picture for the life of me with the 1100.

 

[hbar314]

Good ideas on both swing acceleration and maybe rib width.

What do the barrels (with chokes and forends) weigh?
If those are real close then where is the balance point of each barrel.

When I've swung slower guns I have to push for more lead on fast targets (like the 45 degree in bunker).

If both barrel sets weight and balance pretty close then I'd favor the rib width playing into it. But I'd bet a beer its swing from the different weight/barrel balance.

Also, do the guns weigh the same overall?

 

[flashmax]

Rib heights the same, relative to the bore axis? Any chance of the dreaded canting? As I get older and stiffer (in the neck), I fight canting more...

Y’all need to re-read Neil on cant. It is dreaded only because of porch “wisdom”.

Is effect of cant greater w/ high ribs? (Winston)

A few days ago, another “gun canting” tread showed up, connected with the shooter’s move to an unsingle. And the result of the shooter’s idea that he was missing because of cant was as usual. Lots of advice, lots of opinion; mostly, it seemed to me a lot of “explanatory fictions” that are...

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