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Gun Fit is a great thing. But, the bottom line is 9/8 of shot will still recoil more than 8/8 oz. of shot, with the same shotgun that fits your properly. Staying in the shotgun for each and every shot, shot after shot will allow you to become a better shooter. Some shooters just handle recoil better than others!!!

#8 shot fired at the same speed will always have the same ft. pounds of energy at the same given distance. No matter if the shot is fired from a 410 bore, or a 12 ga. shotgun.

one oz. of #8 1/2 shot, has more pellets than a 9/8 oz. of #8 shot. Don't think for one second that 8 1/2 shot will not break a 16 yard target just as well as #8 shot. Handicap is another story with shot size, but the recoil story stays the same. Now if the GA can be won with #8 shot fired at 1,145 fps. Then you can win, with a once oz. load of #8 shot @ 1,180!!! Now go out there and find your balance!!! break em all jeff
 

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One ounce will do just fine. If you're on them, they'll break, regardless. Those who have cited confidence are spot on as well. A shooter has to go with what works for him/her. I've been shooting clay targets for 61 years, settling on 1 oz loads many years ago and haven't looked back. For me, I see no difference.
 

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I haven't shot competitively in a number of years and I started loading 3/4 oz. in 12 gauge about 5 years ago. I lose a couple of targets per hundred, but I mainly shoot against myself these days. I still get enough straights to keep me happy. I shoot a lot of sub gauge too and I get quite of few loads out of a bag of shot.

Easier on the shoulder too although I have never been recoil sensitive.
 

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One ounce of #8 shot has the same amount of pellets as 1.125 oz of #7 1/2. The larger pellet has a little more energy, but if you speed the load up a little it's the same.
Your shoulder and your wallet will notice the difference.

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Wouldn't that be more dependent upon shot size and speed? If a 1oz and 1 1/8 are both at 1200fps and both the same shot size the result would be the same, but the smaller load would have less pellets. No? Its been a long time since I was in a physics class.
I think, though I could be wrong, that given a 1 oz load and a 1 1/8 oz load with the same velocity and shot size will deliver the same energy (and penetration) per pellet to the target. If that is true, and if Neil Winston was correct (very high odds of that), and the number of pellets in the core of the pattern is the same, then there is no advantage to the extra weight, recoil, and expense of the 9/8 load. Top that off with the fact that you can push a 1 oz load to three dram speeds and have less recoil than 2 3/4 dram 1 1/8 loads and tradition is all that's left that favors the heavier shot load.
 
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Kindly do not take offense to this question, it's an honest one.
How many of you A, AA and AAA shooters, are competing in ATA events, using 1oz loads?
I do use 1oz for first shot in doubles, but that's it. Everything else is
1 1/8th.
Just curious,
 

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Kindly do not take offense to this question, it's an honest one.
How many of you A, AA and AAA shooters, are competing in ATA events, using 1oz loads?
I do use 1oz for first shot in doubles, but that's it. Everything else is
1 1/8th.
Just curious,
I use/used 1.1/8 for everything.
 
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The main advantage of 1 1/8 oz over 1 oz is not in the core (tho the core is a tad bigger with 1 1/8 oz). The advantage is a thicker and wider fringe. 1 1/8 oz will snag you an occasional hit that was almost hit with 1 oz.
 

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Kindly do not take offense to this question, it's an honest one.
How many of you A, AA and AAA shooters, are competing in ATA events, using 1oz loads?
I do use 1oz for first shot in doubles, but that's it. Everything else is
1 1/8th.
Just curious,
You make a good point. Although I have never shot any ATA events, I have shot many NSSA events including States and Nationals.

I was AAA in 12 gauge, B in 20 (no idea why), AA in 28 and A in 410. I was pretty anal about my reloads being as close to allowed without going overweight. I would have probably never shot 1 oz. in competition even though I did a lot in practice. Shoot the most you can for competition, but I see no issue going lighter for practice.
 
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Kindly do not take offense to this question, it's an honest one.
How many of you A, AA and AAA shooters, are competing in ATA events, using 1oz loads?
I do use 1oz for first shot in doubles, but that's it. Everything else is
1 1/8th.
Just curious,
I use 1oz #8 at around 1180 for singles and both shots on doubles(since 1996). I use 1 1/8th oz 7.5's for handicap at around 1235. Shot 5000 singles, 4800 handicap and 4400 doubles in 2021. Usually AAA27AA or AAA at years end. There is only ten or fifteen pellets more of the 1 oz 8's in pellet count comparison.
 

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I use 1oz #8 at around 1180 for singles and both shots on doubles(since 1996). I use 1/1/8th oz 7.5's for handicap at around 1235. Shot 5000 singles, 4800 handicap and 4400 doubles in 2021. Usually AAA27AA or AAA at years end. There is only ten or fifteen pellets more of the 1 oz 8's in pellet count comparison.
Not really,
There are 51 to 55 additional pellets in a 1 1/8 oz load of #8's in comparison to 1 oz of # 8's.
A 12% increase.

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Ja, but sometimes I'm not on them. Sometimes I'm off just a bit. That's when the extra pellets in 1 1/8 will get you an occasional extra target. When every target counts, I gladly take that extra target.
That's a good point. When I was young, but full grown, I not only wanted 1 1/8th ounces, but also 3 dram (1200FPS) loads for everything. At that point that worked pretty well for me. As I have gotten older, (70th birthday coming up), I have found I can tell quite a bit of difference between how I feel, energy wise, at the end of a long day of shooting 1 1/8 ounce loads and shooting the same number of 1 oz loads. I'm at the point that I shoot better at the end of the day with a little less wear and tear and the one ounce loads give me that. I believe for me, I gain as many birds from still being sharper on the last hundred of the day as I lose in "lucky" hits with fringe pattern. Don't get me wrong. I still shoot five hundred bird doubles marathons, and I don't use a recoil reducer. I'm just a bit quicker and surer at the end of the day with less recoil through out. I also have to tell you that as a reloader, the extra 45 shells per bag of shot does not hurt my feelings any! LOL! Not knocking what works for you, just passing on a different perspective.
 

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Let’s see what the pattern board can tell us about these loads and their performance.

12 GA 2 3/4" WINCHESTER AA EXTRA-LITE TARGET LOAD
1 oz #8 lead (393 pellets) @ 1180 fps

12 GA 2 3/4" WINCHESTER AA EXTRA-LITE TARGET LOAD
1 oz #7 ½ lead (344 pellets) @ 1180 fps

12 GA 2 3/4" WINCHESTER AA HEAVY TARGET LOAD
1 1/8 oz #7 ½ lead (377 pellets) @ 1200 fps


Patterning results from a 12-gauge Browning Citori with 28" Invector-plus barrels using Briley flush chokes (patterns average of five, 30" post-shot scribed circle, yardage taped muzzle to target, and in-shell pellet count average of five).

40 YARDS / LM
Win AA XL 2 ¾” 1 oz #8 lead (393 pellets) / pattern 251 (64%)
Win AA XL 2 ¾” 1 oz #7 ½ lead (344 pellets) / pattern 260 (76%)
Win AA HVY 2 ¾” 1 1/8 oz #7 ½ lead (377 pellets) / pattern 264 (70%)

40 YARDS / M
Win AA XL 2 ¾” 1 oz #8 lead (393 pellets) / pattern 292 (74%)
Win AA XL 2 ¾” 1 oz #7 ½ lead (344 pellets) / pattern 272 (79%)
Win AA HVY 2 ¾” 1 1/8 oz #7 ½ lead (377 pellets) / pattern 285 (76%)

40 YARDS / IM
Win AA XL 2 ¾” 1 oz #8 lead (393 pellets) / pattern 295 (75%)
Win AA XL 2 ¾” 1 oz #7 ½ lead (344 pellets) / pattern 255 (74%)
Win AA HVY 2 ¾” 1 1/8 oz #7 ½ lead (377 pellets) / pattern 288 (76%)

40 YARDS / LF
Win AA XL 2 ¾” 1 oz #8 lead (393 pellets) / pattern 294 (75%)
Win AA XL 2 ¾” 1 oz #7 ½ lead (344 pellets) / pattern 271 (79%)
Win AA HVY 2 ¾” 1 1/8 oz #7 ½ lead (377 pellets) / pattern 289 (77%)

40 YARDS / F
Win AA XL 2 ¾” 1 oz #8 lead (393 pellets) / pattern 288 (73%)
Win AA XL 2 ¾” 1 oz #7 ½ lead (344 pellets) / pattern 275 (80%)
Win AA HVY 2 ¾” 1 1/8 oz #7 ½ lead (377 pellets) / pattern 299 (79%)

50 YARDS / F
Win AA XL 2 ¾” 1 oz #8 lead (393 pellets) / pattern 191 (49%)
Win AA XL 2 ¾” 1 oz #7 ½ lead (344 pellets) / pattern 183 (53%)
Win AA HVY 2 ¾” 1 1/8 oz #7 ½ lead (377 pellets) / pattern 219 (58%)

Is one more “effective” than the other?

Now you can be the judge!

Good luck!
 
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