What do you think are the advantages and disadvantages of each?
Asphalt vs. concrete for trap fields
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I could show you a place where they quit shoot 30 plus years ago and all the pads were intact until last heard and that place is in Northern Indiana it is now a storage for Travel Trailers.
Pavement is way too much maintenance and up keep. Just look at a drive way and I think that will provide you with a good reason that you don’t want to use pavement
Then there is the issue of oil and how hot it gets.
There are a few places where they actually have heated concrete for they pads.
I could show you a place where they quit shoot 30 plus years ago and all the pads were intact until last heard and that place is in Northern Indiana it is now a storage for Travel Trailers.
Pavement is way too much maintenance and up keep. Just look at a drive way and I think that will provide you with a good reason that you don’t want to use pavement
Then there is the issue of oil and how hot it gets.
There are a few places where they actually have heated concrete for they pads.
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Thanks for pointing that out. I have edited the thread title.
At least I didn't say MacAdam or tar
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Didn't John McAdam invent the way to pave streets back in colonial days ?Thanks for pointing that out. I have edited the thread title.
At least I didn't say MacAdam or tar
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Our 3 skeet fields and one trap all have concrete. They have been there for many years with no issues. I’m in the Boston area.
One of the larger clubs up here has asphalt for skeet and trap. In the middle of the summer it’s like standing in a parking lot. It’s hot as …….
One of the larger clubs up here has asphalt for skeet and trap. In the middle of the summer it’s like standing in a parking lot. It’s hot as …….
GonBad has the right idea. No added water. Have tools and manpower ready when pouring. Added water will cause spalling down the road in not to long period of timer.
Concrete engineer who has poured many roads bridges etc. chimed in with this. No salt in winter. Other product out there or light sand will work if not alternative. Will not melt snow, just for traction.
Make sure
you have a good base and don't just pour over dirt.
Concrete engineer who has poured many roads bridges etc. chimed in with this. No salt in winter. Other product out there or light sand will work if not alternative. Will not melt snow, just for traction.
Make sure
you have a good base and don't just pour over dirt.
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Be sure to put the yardage markers in wet concrete so you don’t have to paint every year. I am still looking for a way to cut markers in old concrete
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Asphalt is easier to plow in Winta.
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We had the same debate at our club and ended up talking to emersonproservices.com about options. They were super helpful in explaining drainage, long-term upkeep, and how temps affect each surface. Made it easier to figure out what would last longer without killing the budget.
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Straight up no doubt about it, CONCRETE.
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I think concrete is overall better but if its lite colored it can have quite a bit of glare to it. I've shot in places that on a sunny day the glare form the concrete is intense and when shooting from the 27 it can cause one to need darker lenses than needed to see the target to offset the glare. Maybe there needs to be dye of some sort added to dull the glare when sun shines??? I know nothing about concrete or the laying of asphalt. Disclaimer.
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You only need shoot 100 targets once above an asphalt field on a hundred degree day to know why concrete should always be used.
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Shooting at Minute Man, in Mass. on Asphalt posts in the summer just SUCKS! Plus the the ice and snow causing "pot holes" and the freeze humps make it hard to find a nice level spot to shoot. Concrete is the way to go! Are you building a new field close by Joe?
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Asphalt will get brittle over time as it is made to be a little flexible and must be flexed to keep in shape, as in car driving over it. If you want to see this, just find an old, abandoned road and you will see that it gets brittle and water gets in the cracks and the freeze and thaw cycle will play havoc with it and then you will need to replace the asphalt a, base and subbase.
Go with concrete with good subbase and proper drainage to keep water out of the subbase and it will last a very long time. I don’t know how far north you are so check with someone local as you might need to use air entrained concrete. This process, known as air entrainment, is crucial for enhancing the durability of concrete, particularly in freeze-thaw conditions.
Go with concrete with good subbase and proper drainage to keep water out of the subbase and it will last a very long time. I don’t know how far north you are so check with someone local as you might need to use air entrained concrete. This process, known as air entrainment, is crucial for enhancing the durability of concrete, particularly in freeze-thaw conditions.
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Wouldn't asphalt be hotter than blazes?
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