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As I’ve mentioned in past post I’ve got 20-30 new youth shooters ranging from 8-17. So far everyone is having fun progressing through our safety stages. We're at the stage where parents are asking questions about guns. Right now we have 5-6 club guns that we use during practice. As the kids decide they want to truly explore shooting sports, we encourage them to get their own gun. As then they can make sure they have proper gun fit and can also practice mounting etc when not at the range.

Here is a draft I'm putting together and would love to get some feedback. I'm also looking for brands that fall into each category. As many of these kids will be shooting trap, skeet and sporting, I'm wanting to point the parents towards a gun that can do all 3 versus a specialized gun like a BT-99.

Buying Your Youth’s First Shotgun: A Guide for Parents

What Should You Buy?

When it comes to purchasing a first shotgun for your youth, the right choice depends on their age, size, and experience level. Typically, for shooters aged 13 or older, it's a good idea to invest in a 12-gauge shotgun right away. However, for smaller-framed or younger shooters, starting with a 20-gauge can be a great option. The 20-gauge will serve as a stepping stone, but the goal should be to transition to a 12-gauge as soon as the shooter is ready. The best advice I was ever given was "Buy the best shotgun you can afford and you won't go wrong."

Shotgun Progression
As your child grows and gets more involved in the sport, expect them to go through a progression of 2 to 3 different guns. This is perfectly normal! The shotgun they start with at 9 years old will likely not be the same one they’re using at 17. Unlike other sports equipment, firearms tend to retain their value over time. You can often resell a well-maintained shotgun for close to what you paid, with only a minor difference in price (typically ±10%).

Types of Shotguns
I’ve broken down shotguns into four categories: Beginner, Starter, Committed, and Serious. Each stage reflects the shooter’s experience level, commitment to the sport, and expected usage.

1. Beginner Shotguns
  • Ideal Age Range: 8 to 10 years old
  • Purpose: To have fun, learn the basics, and build confidence.
  • Description: These guns are smaller and lightweight, specifically designed for young shooters who are just starting. They are typically basic, often hunting-based models, meant to fit the shooter more than anything else. The focus here is on comfort and safety, not long-term use.
  • Gauge: 20 Gauge. (28-gauge and .410 are not recommended due to the cost of ammo and the higher skill level required to hit targets.)
  • Price Range: $500 - $700
  • Note: This gun is a stepping stone. Your youth will outgrow it, but it’s a valuable introduction to shooting sports.
  • Example Guns:
    • Mossberg 500/505/510 Bantam
    • Remington 870 Youth Model
    • TriStar Viper G2 Youth
    • Yildiz Lineage Youth
2. Starter Shotguns
  • Ideal Experience: New Shooter
  • Purpose: To practice regularly and start participating in local competitions.
  • Description: These are reliable, dedicated sporting guns designed for skeet, trap, and sporting clays, not for hunting. A good starter gun will last for several years and can handle shooting once or twice a week, including a few competitions per year. For smaller shooters, a semi-automatic can reduce recoil and improve comfort, while more experienced shooters may opt for an over/under shotgun.
  • Gauge: 12 Gauge. (A 20-gauge is acceptable but may require upgrading as they progress.)
  • Price Range: $800 - $2,000
  • Example Guns:
    • Beretta A300/A400
    • CZ Redhead Premier
    • SKB RS300
    • Franchi Instinct/Affinity
3. Committed Shotguns
  • Ideal Experience: 2-3 years of shooting sports
  • Purpose: For serious youth shooters who are ready to compete frequently and shoot hundreds, if not thousands, of rounds per year.
  • Description: These shotguns are built for heavy use and high-level performance. They are durable, reliable, and most commonly found in the over/under configuration. These are the firearms for shooters who participate in regular competitions and spend a lot of time practicing.
  • Price Range: $1,800 - $3,000
  • Example Guns:
    • Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon
    • Browning 725 Sporting
    • Fabarm Elos
    • Browning Citori CX
4. Serious Shotguns
  • Ideal Experience: 5+ years of shooting sports
  • Purpose: For the dedicated competitor planning to continue shooting into adulthood.
  • Description: These are professional-level shotguns for individuals who shoot 10,000 rounds or more per year. They are built to last for years of high-intensity use and come with advanced features tailored for competition.
  • Price Range: Starting at $8,000 and can go much higher depending on customization and brand.
  • Example Guns:
    • Krieghoff K-80
    • Perazzi MX8
    • Blaser F3
    • Zoli Z-Sport
Conclusion
Choosing the right shotgun is an important decision for any young shooter. It’s essential to consider your child’s size, strength, and commitment to the sport when selecting a firearm. While the progression from beginner to serious shotgun can seem daunting, each step is designed to ensure they have the right equipment for their current needs.

Remember, firearms tend to hold their value well, so consider each purchase as part of your shooter’s journey rather than a permanent decision. By investing wisely, you can ensure that they enjoy shooting sports safely and successfully for years to come.
 
The only thing I see that I don't completely agree with is the recommendation of 20ga for beginners. I coach a youth team of 6-12th grade students. Typically average around 50 shooters on the team each year. I really try to promote the use of a 1oz #8 load in a 12ga over the 20ga, as long as they can handle the weight. variety of 20ga shells are harder to come by, and this load seems to not kick any more than the majority of the 20ga shells that parents are able to find. Again, as long as the students can handle the sometimes slightly heavier 12ga. Now I don't have kids younger than 11years old. So if you are going all the way down to 8 year olds... 20ga may be the only option that is viable given their physical size.

Right now I have several intro students shooting Winchester SXP trap models. 13" LOP on the compact with a 28" or 30" barrel. Fiber front site, come with M, IM, and F Inv+ chokes, monte carlo stock, and shoot 60/40 or maybe a little higher for most shooters out of the box. Local FFL has them for $429.99 new.

Tough to beat as something to get them into Trap, let them still see the target as they shoot it, low price, and decent fit. And if they decide it isn't their sport, use as a pump gun for some bird hunting, or sell only losing maybe 10-20%.

I hate to see new shooters come out the first time with ANY youth gun, 12ga or 20ga. The short little 20-22" barrels are such a handicap for them. We used to tell parents to buy the standard Mossberg 500/maverick 88 with the 28" barrel, and then a cheap used compact/youth stock off ebay to shorten the LOP. But now with the price on these SXP Trap... we are recommending that route.
 
This is a great way to start off a new group, considering some parent and shooter know very little about the sport. I like how you set the expectation early that gun fit is going to change and may need adjusting throughout their first few years. I’ve shot beretta autos and plenty of over/unders for a while and help coach a couple school teams and even more young shooters. An A400 is a gun that can be used from beginning to end and is adjustable to most all build shooters with ease. These guns allow new/smaller shooters to shoot 12gauge guns from the beginning and without having to “make the gun work” which leads to lots of bad habits. I highly suggest autos to everyone that ask, and I would put them in any category you have. There are quite a few great shooters shooting an A400 at a professional level. Another great thing about those guns is the availability and lost cost of replacement stocks if you need to cut one off for a young shooter, it can later be replaced at a very minimal cost, no more than a couple hundred bucks usually, as they grow into a longer LOP. I’ve seen many young shooter not show back up for the second year after having a breech gun beat them up. I’ve been able to get a few back by letting them shoot one of my autos at a much lower recoil level. Most didn’t want to talk about it and had moved on because someone had forced it on them.

Good luck as you combine all your comments into a final document. This kind of commitment is good for the sport’s future.
 
Well here’s my story. We moved from Illinois to Indiana about 10 years ago. Wasn’t long and my son and his family moved too(Grandparents make great baby sitters). Anyways his middle daughter was in 7th grade comes over and tells me her School Hanover has a Trap/Skeet team. I’m thinking sure they do. Well I was wrong they’re scholastic teams. So I ask her you want to try it? Sure! So I take her with me and she watches and sees how trap is shot. Do you want to try. Yes! So me being me I buy her a Stevens single shot Trap 20 ga. She goes out and crushes the first target she ever shot at. But later over summer she’s breaking 15-16 etc. So we are sitting on bench a trap was open nobody on it. I tell her take your grandmothers gun(Perazzi TM1) and shot 1 shot from each station. 5/5. I went home and ordered a Browning Micro BT99 12 ga.
That fall she won district beat all the girls thru Seniors in HS. Sooo I get on Phone and get her a Syren 12 ga combo trap. Now last month took the state. Average 95.5. She’s a Freshman but shoots Varsity squad. Some guys at club won’t shoot with her. “I’m not letting that kid embarrass me” lol . She shot some AIM and were planning on Sparta this July. She’ll shoot 16/Handicap I’ll shoot Vet same thing ATA.
 
I would also give recommendation on shells for the youth. I’ve seen them come to the line with heavy loads because that is what grandad recommended with no regard to the kids shoulder pain and bad habits it leads to.
Just my 2cents
 
No 20ga. Youth guns as they kick like a mule. Mossberg or Rem. 870 are great starter guns. See Rem 1187 with shell catchers are good. You have spent a great deal of thought.
Congratulations on coaching youth successfully. Remember, it is the Indian not the arrow. Teach them well.
 
Well here’s my story. We moved from Illinois to Indiana about 10 years ago. Wasn’t long and my son and his family moved too(Grandparents make great baby sitters). Anyways his middle daughter was in 7th grade comes over and tells me her School Hanover has a Trap/Skeet team. I’m thinking sure they do. Well I was wrong they’re scholastic teams. So I ask her you want to try it? Sure! So I take her with me and she watches and sees how trap is shot. Do you want to try. Yes! So me being me I buy her a Stevens single shot Trap 20 ga. She goes out and crushes the first target she ever shot at. But later over summer she’s breaking 15-16 etc. So we are sitting on bench a trap was open nobody on it. I tell her take your grandmothers gun(Perazzi TM1) and shot 1 shot from each station. 5/5. I went home and ordered a Browning Micro BT99 12 ga.
That fall she won district beat all the girls thru Seniors in HS. Sooo I get on Phone and get her a Syren 12 ga combo trap. Now last month took the state. Average 95.5. She’s a Freshman but shoots Varsity squad. Some guys at club won’t shoot with her. “I’m not letting that kid embarrass me” lol . She shot some AIM and were planning on Sparta this July. She’ll shoot 16/Handicap I’ll shoot Vet same thing ATA.
Go get them young lady!! Smoke those clays!!
 
No 20ga. Youth guns as they kick like a mule. Mossberg or Rem. 870 are great starter guns. See Rem 1187 with shell catchers are good. You have spent a great deal of thought.
Congratulations on coaching youth successfully. Remember, it is the Indian not the arrow. Teach them well.
Well John think about it, it’s all physics. You push 1 1/8 oz thru a 12 ga pipe at 1200fps now that that same load and push it thru a smaller pipe the pressure has to be higher. Which relates to higher recoil. As a Millright doing hydraulics you learn right away pumps create flow, resistance to flow creates pressure.
 
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