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So to preface my question - I've been dealing with this issue for a long time. On and off thing for 3 years now, as my style and technique changed.
Managed to get into M class even. Tried a lot.

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Video 2
Video 3

Here is what I've done so far.

1. Read all similar posts, as well as Rollin Oswald's posts.
2. Bought the TSK and learned how to use all the settings and tried them out to minimize the barrel jump as much as I can.

Still, I'm left with a small barrel jump that hits my cheek against my protruded Asian cheekbones and I get the bruise once in a while.
It happens because the butt moves back quite a bit (as I see) during recoil. The length of pull does nothing with it, the movement is still there.

Solutions that I know of:

1. Crawl the hell out of the stock and really cheek that thing - like here. It makes the recoil vector very straight into the shoulder and zero space for the stock to go.
Hurts my neck. Unnatural for me. Can't repeat it subconsciously time after time.

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2. Chicken wing it so there's a more flat surface for my butt to lay on.
Tried it, but can't say it made a lot of difference.

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3. Go to a professional gun fitter.
Tried 2 of them in my local area. All they could tell me is - crawl the stock. Can't.
Also I'm outside of US now with no access to gun fitters.

Really lost right now, any help would be appreciated.
 
#2 ·
Get a soft comb.

I have sharp cheekbones and not much fat in the cheek area of my face (plus I cheek the gun in a manner that doesn't bunch up skin/fat b/w my cheekbone and comb), at one point when I was younger I had a 410 side by side open my face up. It's gotten better as I've aged and my face has filled out, but I still use soft combs on my guns (although even with a soft comb I can still get a little bit of a bruise on my cheek if I'm really into the gun and haven't shot for a while), if you have a recoil pad for your shoulder why not have one for your face too.

TSK makes a comb with a foam insert that would drop right on, they aren't the greatest but would give you something to try.
 
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I agree with skeet_man. A soft comb can certainly help. I use them on my trap guns with great success, for relief of cheek slap/bruising. Everyone is different. I do believe that the shape and thickness of a wood comb also can contribute to face slap, depending on your cheek pressure. The slightly thicker combs on my sporting guns do not affect me as much, and feel more comfortable.
 
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skeet_man said:
Get a soft comb.

I have sharp cheekbones and not much fat in the cheek area of my face (plus I cheek the gun in a manner that doesn't bunch up skin/fat b/w my cheekbone and comb), at one point when I was younger I had a 410 side by side open my face up. It's gotten better as I've aged and my face has filled out, but I still use soft combs on my guns (although even with a soft comb I can still get a little bit of a bruise on my cheek if I'm really into the gun and haven't shot for a while), if you have a recoil pad for your shoulder why not have one for your face too.

TSK makes a comb with a foam insert that would drop right on, they aren't the greatest but would give you something to try.
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Thanks. Do you think a cheek pad like the one Beretta sells is sufficient?
 
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pheasantsgalore said:
I agree with skeet_man. A soft comb can certainly help. I use them on my trap guns with great success, for relief of cheek slap/bruising. Everyone is different. I do believe that the shape and thickness of a wood comb also can contribute to face slap, depending on your cheek pressure. The slightly thicker combs on my sporting guns do not affect me as much, and feel more comfortable.
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certainly the case with different combs. Do you use a cheek pad or a soft comb?
 
#8 ·
I have watched all 3 videos. Your head drives down on to the stock on recoil. The gun is driving straight back with little barrel jump. How light is you gun. I put 10oz of navy brass 5/16 round stock in the stock. It takes the bite out of 3dram 1 1/8 1200 8s. And makes 1 1/8 1145 8s feel like 1 oz. Thats what worked for me. I am by no means an expert on this. I am sure there are more qualified on this site. Pull&Mark is the guy he might have the answer. A lot of goods guys on this site.
 
#10 ·
Looking at the videos, it seems that the front of your comb is higher than the rear. When your gun recoils the higher front part is going hit your cheek. Try making the comb into a parallel unit with the bore and not your typical sporting clays configuration. Just an obsevation.
 
#11 ·
I lean into the shot and cheek the gun a bit farther up on the comb and a bit firmer. Not really crawling the comb but farther forward than your videos show you doing. Looks like the gun is getting a run at your cheek.
 
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amature target shooter said:
Also looks like alot of movement rear ward , like its not tight to your shoulder ..
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I agree, based on the videos, it appears you are NOT in the stock at all. Your cheek skin doesn’t wrinkle at all and gun just appears to move backwards. If bending down like your example photo hurts…. Move the comb up higher.
Second, also agree front of comb appears slightly higher…. This may be okay “after” you adjust it up.
 
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AusAmateur said:
I don't think OP has any cheek pressure at all on the comb. Maybe sporting techniques are different to trap?
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I agree, you are NOT in the stock in the videos. There is no cheek pressure when mounted. It looks like the comb needs raised.
Second, it doesn’t appear you are placing butt of gun in correct position. It should be tucked into shoulder a bit more (look at your picture examples). It looks like you are placing it more in the crotch of armpit.
Third - I don’t shoot sporting BUT in trap, the length of pull in your videos looks a bit short.

It’s tough to say for sure since we are looking at videos. Best of luck.
 
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