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#21 ·
NE Kansas shooter said:
I like titegroup/ Highgun. I’m also becoming a fan of Nitro 100 NF. e3 seems to be available all of the time if you want to stick with a large flake powder. If you can stomach the price. Luckily I have some e3 left I purchased before the price went crazy.
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I use titegroup for loading pistol and like it a lot. I was hoping to use it for shotgun as well but I guess that's not happening.
 
#22 ·
ordy said:
I use titegroup for pistol and due to the difficulty finding 700x would like to use it for shotgun as well.
I reload federal/peters paper and can't find the hodgdon load data I need. With the 700x, I load 18.5 grains which yields 1200 fps (I don't rightly remember the pressure). I load paper hulls, one and one eighth ounce of lead shot, chedite 209 primers and figure eight wads. Can someone give some advice on titegroupe powder to maintain the 1200 fps speed. Thanks
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Figure Eight wads aren't really what you should be using in Federal papers.

It seems like you like 'old school' stuff soo,,, get you some AACF hulls and load your Titegroup and Figure Eights in those...
 
#23 ·
I've found that you need to be checking your powder sources almost daily as it's available then it's gone. I remember talking to a successful businessman about a piece of land I was thinking about buying and was wondering what he thought. All he said was buy it. So, when I find powder and it's priced reasonable, I buy it as I do not believe we will ever see the days when you could stop at the store and pick up the powder, primers or shot you needed at any given time. Besides I'll either load it or it will go good at the estate sale!
 
#30 ·
It’s the way 700x was classified for shipping. It can be shipped only by big freight carriers not by ups, fed ex, etc. in a 8 lb container. Because of this Hodgdon eliminated the 8 lb container for packaging in 700x.
the supply disturbance is because the manufacturing equipment was disassembled in the Canadian plant and is to be set up in one of the 2 American companies that produce powder. I don’t know the names but one is owned by our government and that is where the equipment went. I understand currently the line is not back in operation yet and it’s unknown when it will be producing powder again.
 
#31 ·
ordy said:
I use titegroup for pistol and due to the difficulty finding 700x would like to use it for shotgun as well.
I reload federal/peters paper and can't find the hodgdon load data I need. With the 700x, I load 18.5 grains which yields 1200 fps (I don't rightly remember the pressure). I load paper hulls, one and one eighth ounce of lead shot, chedite 209 primers and figure eight wads. Can someone give some advice on titegroupe powder to maintain the 1200 fps speed. Thanks
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Hodgdon has good 1.125 ounce loads with titewad and cheditte primers. check it out. I have been using titewad in federal papers for about 3 years now. It helps that titewad becomes available several times a year.
 
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#33 ·
phatkaw said:
Hey @tomk2 , what wads do you use for your papers?
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For Titewad and Win 209 primers, I use 12-c1 clone CB3118-12AR. For Titewad and Cheditte primers, 12s3 clone CB2118-12
It is working very well, good stack height and crimps. I think I have just about the same number of CB3118-12AR wads as I do Win209 primers, so I was hoping to finish them both up this winter.

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#34 ·
Silver_Is_Money said:
Accurate's Nitro 100 NF (now a Hodgdon product) can load everything in 12 Gauge from 3/4 Oz. to 1-1/8 ounce, and data spanning this range is now on Hodgdon's website. A wee bit less dense than 700-X, but close overall.

Edit: Somewhat faster burning than 700-X. A #27 or #28 MEC bushing should get you into the general ballpark for Nitro 100 NF.
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also note that Titewad and Nitro 100NF is the same powder.
 
#35 ·
2500 HD said:
It’s the way 700x was classified for shipping. It can be shipped only by big freight carriers not by ups, fed ex, etc. in a 8 lb container. Because of this Hodgdon eliminated the 8 lb container for packaging in 700x.
the supply disturbance is because the manufacturing equipment was disassembled in the Canadian plant and is to be set up in one of the 2 American companies that produce powder. I don’t know the names but one is owned by our government and that is where the equipment went. I understand currently the line is not back in operation yet and it’s unknown when it will be producing powder again.
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I call BS. If 700X is not sold in 8lb. containers it is because of production logistics or management decisions, NOT because of "updated shipping regulations".
Smokeless powder is smokeless powder according to the D.O.T.
 
#36 ·
2500 HD said:
It’s the way 700x was classified for shipping. It can be shipped only by big freight carriers not by ups, fed ex, etc. in a 8 lb container. Because of this Hodgdon eliminated the 8 lb container for packaging in 700x.
the supply disturbance is because the manufacturing equipment was disassembled in the Canadian plant and is to be set up in one of the 2 American companies that produce powder. I don’t know the names but one is owned by our government and that is where the equipment went. I understand currently the line is not back in operation yet and it’s unknown when it will be producing powder again.
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I thought Hodgdon receives its powder in bulk and repackages it. Any decisions regarding how much of each bottle/jug size to make are made by Hodgdon management; there aren't any government regulations involved in that decision-making process.
 
#37 ·
You correct Hodgdon does not make any powder neither does Alliant. They buy, lab test, bottle and distribute. My info came from Roger at AJ supplies. I was just at his warehouse the day after Christmas. Something pertaining to EX 1.3 and 1.4 classification. He told me 700x will not be available in 8lb containers because of shipping classification. Roger deals with powder orders every day. I trust his information.
 
#40 ·
ordy said:
I use titegroup for pistol and due to the difficulty finding 700x would like to use it for shotgun as well.
I reload federal/peters paper and can't find the hodgdon load data I need. With the 700x, I load 18.5 grains which yields 1200 fps (I don't rightly remember the pressure). I load paper hulls, one and one eighth ounce of lead shot, chedite 209 primers and figure eight wads. Can someone give some advice on titegroupe powder to maintain the 1200 fps speed. Thanks
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You need a larger diameter wad for Federal plastic or paper hulls. Try the ClayBuster Red 8

HM
 
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