I see 66 loads on Hodgdon's website with High Gun powder for both one oz. loads and for 1 1/8 oz. loads. As you mentioned this powder is great for 1 1/8 oz. loads as well. To me this makes this powder more versatile IMO. I saw a one oz. load that ranged from 1,180 to 1,345 fps. 1 1/8 oz. loads range from 1,090 fps to 1,255 fps. That's a pretty versatile powder to me!!! However, no loads listed for any 7/8 oz. loads. If that makes a difference, on what you want to load??? break em all jeff
While I didn't say TiteGroup ( High Gun) couldn't be used for 1 Oz. ( which it certainly can) My point was it is probably best suited for 1-1/8 oz. offerings. Perfect Pattern is pretty much limited to the lighter loads and can be use with 7/8 recipes . As you say it all depends on what you intend to load . Since I shoot mainly 1 oz. , and rarely load 1-1/8 ( except hunting loads Annies, and Protection games) , and keep some other powders on hand for that , My personal choice of target powder would be Perfect Pattern .
My favorite 12 ga. load is a one oz. @1,180 fps. For Annies and games, I can load High Gun for 1 1/8 oz. loads at 1,255 fps when needed. Which is more than enough for most games. I don't shoot in cold weather, so my needs and your needs may differ. But you can't load Perfect Pattern that fast with a 1 1/8 oz. of lead. So HG powder is perfect for me. I don't load 7/8 oz. loads for 12 ga. If I want to shoot a 7/8 oz. load. I will load up some 20 ga. loads. Now I can use the proper gauge to shoot this payload. So I know which choke to use, for the proper distances I plan to shoot that day.
I load 1 oz. With Titegroup for skeet and 5 stand very happy with it.
I shoot 7/8 in 12 Ga. for skeet and practice on 16 yd. sometimes Seems to work fine for me. As far as to what choke ,International Skeet and Bunker trap uses 24 Grams ( pretty much a 7'8 oz. load just a Nat's hair difference ) The skeeters uses a Skeet choke or maybe a Skeet II in the second barrel. As for what choke for trap with that load, the Bunker Bunch uses Full almost exclusively Works for me.
Your not alone in loading 7/8 oz. load in the 12 ga. To save money, and recoil on your shoulder.
Well for me it is a non issue since I use a Full or at the very least light full for trap anyway, I ;m not sure I agree about the 12 ga. chokes All being designed foe 1-1/8 oz. of shot. Especially European guns. I use 1 oz. loads in 12 Ga. for Doves and never found any problem with using my 1 oz. trap loads with with a .020 choke .Sometimes I hunt quail in think cover with a light weight twin tubed gun. My first shot is 7/8 oz. of #8s followed by 1 oz. of 7-1/2s IMP. cyl in the first barrel and Mod. in the second barrel. and I have had no issues with those chokes and those light loads. The pattern board didn't think so and The birds at moderate ranges didn't seem to either. Personally I think shot hardness is a bigger factor as far as patters go.
That's were we differ. I have always used a modified choke for shooting 16 yd. Trap!!! I too used a one oz. load for most of my singles shooting. But IMO, I might need to use at least a IM for 16 yd. singles, if I were use a 7/8 oz. payload of shot. Then more than likely a full choke for my handicap yardage with the same 7/8 oz. load. Its not rocket science though. We all need to use what we feel is needed, to keep our confidence up. break em all Jeff
Everybody has their opinion ( to each his own) I have known many of the greats of the game. Almost all of them used a tight choke . I'm not saying Mod. wont break 16 yd. targets . I have tried it but ,went back to IMP Mod and Full because it gave me better breaks .What ever floats your boat. Break e'm all !
Do you have a receipt for 1 1/8 loads at 1170/1200 fps
