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#41 ·
Pull & Mark said:
I shot Skrap (as we called the game) as much as we all could on weekends, until the crash of 08. Then the crowd that played the game disappeared overnight as it were. Many of whom were snowbirds. So the games were only played 4 months of the year anyway!!!

To make the game more interesting, set the trap machine on wobble. This adds another dimension to game for sure. We allowed 2 shots per target if you wanted to play. Some shooters still used their SBT guns to play. break em all Jeff
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This was my go to to practice for box flyers. I would also hold only left or right side of trap to force significant movement to catch the birds.
 
#43 ·
RetiredinPa said:
I’m an average trap shooter. A bad day for me is when I shoot under 22 out of 25. 22/23 is about right for me. My two oldest sons wanted me to try 5 stand. What a disaster for me. I struggled to get 12. Am I ruined because of trap shooting? I obviously don’t have any idea on how to lead the birds from so many different directions. Am I the only one doing so badly in this transition. I almost feel it is a waste of ammunition!!
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I shoot trap, 5-stand, and sporting clays. I'm dropping trap this year to concentrate on clays. Find it more challenging.
 
#44 ·
At a range I used to go to (where I used to live)… the guy who ran the 5-Stand was so proud of his creation… so my friends and I decided to try his 5-stand. We all did terrible and we realized the guy running it made it his job to make it unbelievably difficult for everyone. I understand making it “challenging” but that was ridiculous. Never went back to that location for 5-stand.
 
#45 ·
murphranch said:
This is how we built our 5 stand last year. 2 rabbits, 2 chandelle, 2 battue, 1 mini, 1 midi and 6 standards machines. We set the center farthest machine 80 yards out and curved everything back to the shooting stands. The 4H kids I coach really like the different target presentations and sizes. The main remote can store more menus than you would want to program. I made laminated menu cards with magnets that stick to the shooting stands at each station so the kids can be ready. I still like to announce what they are shooting and where they are coming from because they are still kids. Each machine has a large number on it and they are very visible. Menus are easiest to hardest. First menu is 25 targets starting with a single then report pair and then true pair and rotate and repeat. Programmed the target difficulty and then used a random number generator to keep from having repeat targets. If we don’t shoot the menus there’s 2 manual remote and if you are by yourself we have 2 voice activated remotes. Other than the rabbits the machines are mounted on top of 6 ft poles that can rotate 180* and they can be tilted 45*. Course can be set up to be extremely hard or very easy. Built a Behlen type metal lodge with kitchen, bathrooms, big common area with pool table and shuffle board. It’s been a great place for the kids to cool down, warm up and have something to eat and drink. If my group had a choice I think they would chose sporting clays because they get to go in the side by side and shoot. Some of my shooters would change their minds if they had to walk. I split practices up evenly shooting trap one week and then 5 stand the next. I feel 5 stand challenges their ability to recognize different targets and directions but trap makes them concentrate more and builds up their mental toughness. Im all for anything with kids and guns in a safe environment . View attachment 1861539


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That looks like a really fun 5 stand.......Id like to shoot that one.
 
#46 ·
5 Stand courses are like golf courses. Can be many different levels of difficulty. Fine line trying to balance the course so people are challenged, but not too challenged to come back. Low handicap golfers don’t enjoy playing putt putt golf, but shooters need to be able to break targets, to want to come back. I had a new shooter show up the other day. He refused any instruction, and went on to miss all 25 targets, on a course that most shooters break in the high teens. I’m sure he won’t be back.
 
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Oregunner said:
5 Stand courses are like golf courses. Can be many different levels of difficulty. Fine line trying to balance the course so people are challenged, but not too challenged to come back. Low handicap golfers don’t enjoy playing putt putt golf, but shooters need to be able to break targets, to want to come back. I had a new shooter show up the other day. He refused any instruction, and went on to miss all 25 targets, on a course that most shooters break in the high teens. I’m sure he won’t be back.
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Those are true words. Where I have gone to shoot trap and 5 stand there is also a cost differential as well to consider. I was paying $5.50 for a round of 25 for trap and $8-9 for a round of 25 for 5 stand. I think I understand the reason for the cost differential but you need some positive reinforcement to keep you/me coming back. I’m hoping for improvement based on some of the feedback I’m receiving from this audience of knowledgeable shooters.
 
#48 ·
Our 5 Stand only uses 6 traps and only throws standard targets, so we charge the same as trap, $5 a round. Lots of traps and specialty targets cost more, and increase the price of playing. Again, it is a compromise each club needs to work out. My shooters would rather be able to shoot 3-4 rounds during a visit, rather than shoot minis, rabbits, etc. at a higher price.
 
#49 ·
RetiredinPa said:
I’m an average trap shooter. A bad day for me is when I shoot under 22 out of 25. 22/23 is about right for me. My two oldest sons wanted me to try 5 stand. What a disaster for me. I struggled to get 12. Am I ruined because of trap shooting? I obviously don’t have any idea on how to lead the birds from so many different directions. Am I the only one doing so badly in this transition. I almost feel it is a waste of ammunition!!
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Some of the best practice for Sporting\5 Stand is shooting Skeet and shoot twice at each single (shoot the largest piece with second shot). All shooting disciplines are fun, just some more then others.
 
#51 ·
Sporting clays is like golf -- first person to say his score doesn't have a chance! --league is full of self-scoring wannabes.
High shooting trap guns are definitely a disadvantage. ---Skeet is a great social activity --timed six shooter last night-- 57 minutes to shoot a round --Sporting clays are a great way to get your exercise -- I you want to shoot, stick to trap.























abes
 
#52 ·
I’ve been to 5 stands that were ridiculously hard and been to some that were a cake walk. Talking about the differences in shooting sports that brings me to Derrick Mein and his ability to switch between Olympic bunker and sporting clays. World champion in both disciplines and would probably be just as good in Olympic skeet if he tried.
 
#53 ·
Since I shoot the clay sports primarily to keep my hunting skills sharp, I find 5-stand and sporting clays very useful. Trap is just a filler for me, but I enjoy it, too.
I have been successful in all of them, with the possible exception of skeet; only went straight one time on skeet....
 
#54 ·
I'm brand spanking new to trap, but have some (if minimal) experience in bird hunting and sporting clays. I've actually had more dead hard rights from 5 and hard lefts from 1 than some straight aways. Spending some time at the crossers in sporting I'm sure helped with this.
 
#55 ·
Octoberclaire2 said:
It's not a waste of ammo if your missing but you know why. Then keep shooting that troublesome bird that's messing with you until you can hit it again and again . Satisfaction and mission accomplished. Now go shoot a few that you know you can hit and feel good.. build your confidence.. Now return to a trouble some bird and shoot until you figure it out. Build your confidence with another pair that you can hit. pretty soon you'll be having a great time. Dom
n't give up it's to much fun. Watch some sporting clay you tube. They will explain every presentation that you will see.
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When I shoot sporting, I'll try stay at a stand till I break every bird presentation. I don't bother keeping score. Only remember the ones I couldn't figure out.
 
#58 ·
I’m just returning the the clay target game after a self imposed break to take care of the family. I only shot trap and it associated games because the clubs only had trap machines. I went to a club that had a skeet field and shot a couple of rounds and enjoyed them. Kids grown, retired, moved to a different state and found a club with a skeet field, I’ll shoot both skeet and trap on the same night and have a ball doing it

Que sera sera

Mike


RetiredinPa said:
I’m an average trap shooter. A bad day for me is when I shoot under 22 out of 25. 22/23 is about right for me. My two oldest sons wanted me to try 5 stand. What a disaster for me. I struggled to get 12. Am I ruined because of trap shooting? I obviously don’t have any idea on how to lead the birds from so many different directions. Am I the only one doing so badly in this transition. I almost feel it is a waste of ammunition!!
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#60 ·
Trap guns shoot high for many 5 stand targets. 5 stand requires more shot to shot thinking. 5 stand is more challenging and more entertaining. Targets flying towards you are inbound kamikazes. Two available shots is too cool. 5 stand with a pump is most fun.
 
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