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#21 ·
Fiochi makes a rubber slug load. I live near Lake Tahoe and our biologist that does the trapping and deterrent efforts used to relocate. That didn't seem to be the answer so they went to releasing and shooting the snot out of them with the rubber bullets and chasing with some huge bear dogs. The goal is to make the visit to town very unpleasant. Black bears are not notorious for attacking. I would use the rubber bullet followed by the above advice of a slug behind rubber..
 
#23 ·
An electric fence around your area of concern with bacon tied on to the wire, works wonders. Set up a camera for some entertaining results. This works great on Bee Hives. It doesn't take long for them to loose their taste for honey.
 
#24 ·
Sounds like Arizona needs to let out more bear tags. We don't play with rubber bullets in Montana. Normally, problem bears just go away, either trapped and moved or killed. More than likely the bear got free food at some point and learned to like it, and thus the problem now. Surprised the Game and Fish dept. isn't helping more with this as it is a very dangerous situation, not for amateurs and rubber bullets. With your lack of experience with bears, You probably have no business handling this your self.
 
#26 ·
I had a buddy who I used to shoot skeet with. He would shoot 20 gauge shells and he would try to use very little shot, so he would use popcorn when he reloaded to take up space in the hull and cut down on the amount of shot he used. So, I'm wondering what would happen if you reloaded some shells and used popcorn on a bear instead of lead.
 
#27 ·
I will say again, if you don't have a lot of experience dealing with bears , You probably should not be shooting anything experimental at them. Could be a good way to get in trouble, Especially without experienced backup. The electric fence idea is a good one. We use electric fences around hunting camps in the Wilderness for Grizzly bears and it works great. Just fence them like you would hogs. Still amazed that the Game wardens won't help you out.
 
#28 ·
I would set up a sensor similar to ones used on garage doors that when the beam is broken it would give a couple seconds of bear pepper spray. That way I don't have to be sitting there 24 hours a day to catch him in the act.
 
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dls guide said:
Sounds like Arizona needs to let out more bear tags. We don't play with rubber bullets in Montana. Normally, problem bears just go away, either trapped and moved or killed. More than likely the bear got free food at some point and learned to like it, and thus the problem now. Surprised the Game and Fish dept. isn't helping more with this as it is a very dangerous situation, not for amateurs and rubber bullets. With your lack of experience with bears, You probably have no business handling this your self.
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dls guide said:
I will say again, if you don't have a lot of experience dealing with bears , You probably should not be shooting anything experimental at them. Could be a good way to get in trouble, Especially without experienced backup. The electric fence idea is a good one. We use electric fences around hunting camps in the Wilderness for Grizzly bears and it works great. Just fence them like you would hogs. Still amazed that the Game wardens won't help you out.
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dis guide -- I know you are trying to help and I appreciate that part of it. But, every one of your remarks contained in your two replies to my original post are so far out in the weeds, that you are giving new meaning to the word 'irrelevant'. I simply cannot imagine how you could come away from any of my posts with the sorts misconceptions that you are addressing. The only issue I am asking the members here to give input on - if they happen to have experience - is whether or not the shotgun shells loaded with two rubber balls are adequately effective? The reason I was wanting to receive input is because apparently, there is a safety issue pertaining to shells loaded with rubber slugs if fired through barrels with tighter than recommended chokes. If you have direct, personal experience and you would like to share it, that would be great, but I read that you "don't play with rubber bullets in Montana", so I won't hold my breath. And by the way, I never said anything to indicate I might be from Arizona. That was Drew Hause. Look it up.
 
#30 ·
Steve Randall said:
I had a buddy who I used to shoot skeet with. He would shoot 20 gauge shells and he would try to use very little shot, so he would use popcorn when he reloaded to take up space in the hull and cut down on the amount of shot he used. So, I'm wondering what would happen if you reloaded some shells and used popcorn on a bear instead of lead.
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#31 ·
leadbelly said:
dis guide -- I know you are trying to help and I appreciate that part of it. But, every one of your remarks contained in your two replies to my original post are so far out in the weeds, that you are giving new meaning to the word 'irrelevant'. I simply cannot imagine how you could come away from any of my posts with the sorts misconceptions that you are addressing. The only issue I am asking the members here to give input on - if they happen to have experience - is whether or not the shotgun shells loaded with two rubber balls are adequately effective? The reason I was wanting to receive input is because apparently, there is a safety issue pertaining to shells loaded with rubber slugs if fired through barrels with tighter than recommended chokes. If you have direct, personal experience and you would like to share it, that would be great, but I read that you "don't play with rubber bullets in Montana", so I won't hold my breath. And by the way, I never said anything to indicate I might be from Arizona. That was Drew Hause. Look it up.
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The balls are not as effective. Buy the slugs. When you shoot the bear it is supposed to fricking hurt. PROBLEM SOVED, DECISION MADE.
 
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