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#21 ·
jktphd said:
I have heard that some people have improved their cross firing issue by wearing a visual occluder (pirate patch) over the off eye during non shooting activities. Theory suggests that this will encourage the weak, on shoulder eye to take over and reduce cross firing.

I would like to hear from anyone who actually found significant improvement with this method. I don't mind hanging around the house with an eye patch in the evening for a few hours if it would help. I am not asking about tape on the lens, or closing the eye while shooting but just about the benefits of visual occlusion while away from shooting. Thanks.
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Why work so hard. Sight-Blinder from Meadow Industries allows you to shoot with both eyes open and with complete confidence only your shooting eye sees the barrel/front bead. Have it on all my guns and it is invisible to the either shooting eye. No possibility of cross firing. .
 
#22 ·
Maplewood said:
Why work so hard. Sight-Blinder from Meadow Industries allows you to shoot with both eyes open and with complete confidence only your shooting eye sees the barrel/front bead. Have it on all my guns and it is invisible to the either shooting eye. No possibility of cross firing. .
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I've tried the meadow sight blinder. All it does is block the end bead to your non dominate eye. I wouldn't say it eliminates the possibility of cross firing. I've gone as far as taping my left lens while removing my left contact and I will still cross fire. I've finally conceded to closing me left eye. I could usually start out the day shooting a decent round or 2 with both eyes open, but it would go down hill after that.
 
#23 ·
Kiner recommends wearing the patch on the offending eye an hour every night like while watching TV and 15 minutes before you shoot to strengthen your dominant eye.
If this don't work you have to black out the upper portion of your lens.
If this don't work You're a one-eyed shooter. Or keep settling for the mystery misses
Cross dominance can get worse with age
 
#24 ·
Maplewood said:
Why work so hard. Sight-Blinder from Meadow Industries allows you to shoot with both eyes open and with complete confidence only your shooting eye sees the barrel/front bead. Have it on all my guns and it is invisible to the either shooting eye. No possibility of cross firing. .
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Sight Blinder is the way to go. I also have to them on all my guns.
 
#26 ·
JBrooks said:
And your new, improved average is?

Your statement is not supported by any factual evidence and there is a massive amount of anecdotal evidence that would indicate it is 180 degrees wrong.

BTW, the guy in Alaska is completely full of baloney and if you read some threads on here about him, you may learn why.
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I shoot (sporting clays) for fun so I can only tell you that my shooting significantly improved as a two eyed shooter. As far as the guy in Alaska...I don’t know if he is or isn’t. The article did prompt me to give shooting without the dot another try and I’m glad I did. I can’t explain it and it defies everything I’ve read on the subject of eye dominance. Just sharing my experience.
 
#27 ·
I shot trap in the 70s, then gave up shooting till around 2000. Wanting to learn sk and SCs I sometimes had a lot of trouble with shots demanding a lot of lead. Not always but enough to figure out my master eye would change. The dot on my lens fixed everything. It's just big enough to block out the end of the barrel.
 
#28 ·
Two Dogs said:
I have been using the magic dot on my left eye for almost 40 yrs.For a time AAA 27 AAA , getting older now but still competive.Patching your off eye with tape or a magic dot is not instant... it takes time for you to get use to it.
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It was TWO DOGS who I had just met at a 1990's shoot at the New York State grounds who gave me one of the magic Dots to try. I happened to be on his squad, and he noticed me closing my left eye, so in between 100's he asked why, I told him, and he graciously gave me the dot. Went on to shoot a high 90's on the second half thanks to him. Still using the Dot system to this day.

We have remained friends ever since.

Two Dogs
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#29 ·
shotgunpeople said:
It was TWO DOGS who I had just met at a 1990's shoot at the New York State grounds who gave me one of the magic Dots to try. I happened to be on his squad, and he noticed me closing my left eye, so in between 100's he asked why, I told him, and he graciously gave me the dot. Went on to shoot a high 90's on the second half thanks to him. Still using the Dot system to this day.

We have remained friends ever since.

Two Dogs
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The dot has changed my shooting sessions. Instead of rifle sighting, i now focus on the bird. When I miss, I now have a solid idea of why. Usually, mental focus.
 
Discussion starter · #30 ·
I think the dot, or something like it has helped me. I saw a short video of Kim Rhode and noticed she had a small piece of tape, placed vertically, over the left eye. I tried it and it seemed to help a lot. I lined it up by looking in the mirror and making sure the tape was blocking all of the colored part of my eye. So far it is the best solution for me that I have found. Thanks to all who offered advice.
 
#31 · (Edited)
Outrunu said:
I've been using this for the last year. I won't go back. Eye stays open, so i still get a bit of peripheral vision, but I'm blocked out from cross firing. Flip it up when I'm off the line.

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The link worked for me and I ordered one. I'm not even sure that cross-firing is the problem - but for $20 I'll try anything!
 
#33 ·
I use monovision for a prescription in all my glasses and found that since my master eye has a tendancy to change from time to time (verified by optometrist and ophthalmologist) it helps greatly. It's because the bird is sharp in my right eye and visible but fuzzy in my left eye. The brain automatically picks the sharp image as the one to use.
 
#34 ·
Maxey Brantley said:
I've heard Pilla has a lens in the works to help cross-eye dominance. Haven't found anything on line just yet but one of the bigger dealers may have more info.
V/r
Maxey
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Discussion starter · #35 ·
To kind of circle back to the original question about reducing cross firing by wearing an eye patch when not shooting, I tried it and did not find it helpful. I get the clearest image when I just close my left eye. It was worth a try but not for me. Thanks for the replies and information.
 
#37 ·
Rainbowbob said:
The link worked for me and I ordered one. I'm not even sure that cross-firing is the problem - but for $20 I'll try anything!
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Ok...so I purchased the flip down eye blocker and tried it out yesterday. The first three stations I could hardly miss, going 14/15. Then I had trouble with stations 4 and 5. The next two rounds were even more mediocre - but not unusual for me. So, I think maybe this is going to help but I won't know until I've given it a lot more extensive trial. My first impression is that I am seeing the bird better, and I am better able to see why I miss. Before I would think I was on it and have no idea why I missed. With the non-dominent eye covered, I can more clearly discern if I am under, over, or behind.
 
#38 ·
Two Dogs said:
I have been using the magic dot on my left eye for almost 40 yrs.For a time AAA 27 AAA , getting older now but still competive.Patching your off eye with tape or a magic dot is not instant... it takes time for you to get use to it.
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I was having issues and TWO DOGS gave me a magic dot to try. AMAZING, and I even got my wife to use them. Both of our scores went up because of not "squinting" anymore, and now able to see peripheral vision yet blocks out the front bead. Amazing results.

Look closely at HER left eye, that's where she has the DOT so she doesn't see the end of the barrel.

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#40 ·
I've been using one for 15 years with success. I didn't know they made a flip down one. How big of an area does it block out? You don't need anymore than something to block out the end of the barrel that way you don't lose your perfume vision. A piece of cloudy or fogged in Scotch tape will work just as well, don't put the clear on. Good luck
 
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