Look at the relative length of the wad streak (a1-a2) and the shot streak (b1-b2) taken with a camera shutter speed of 1/1000sec Note that I am using the same term to them (streak). What is the length of that wad? Maybe 2 inches (petals apparently still unspread)? From that, what can we deduce the length of the shots... maybe 3 inches? Even given an apparent disparity in luminescence (ability of an object to reflect light) between these two, we can see that the shots have barely separated from each other as measured from fastest to slowest, linearly, both "approximately 16-20ft" from the muzzle. A practical, real-life confirmation of the shot assessment is that when a person is shot with 1-1/8oz of birdshot at this range, his entrance wound appear like he's been shot with a slug.
I would also opine with continued judicious approximation that the apparent travel distance of the shot in the photo seems to be a tad skosh more than that of the wad. Certainly to be expected at this point considering the relative rapid deceleration of the wad which lends parenthetic credence to the before mentioned wild assed guesstimated measurements. In agreement to your real-life shot assessment, I would offer the admittedly anecdotal observation that from across the dining room table and up to medium bar room distances, the shot stream, streak or string of a trap load will not be much larger than the pattern size and result in the onset of rigor mortise in a manner much like a load of buck or a slug.
Thanks for that link. This is the kind of stuff that puts the gun club porch talk to rest.
I certainly hope not!
Thanks for that link... average of 55" @ 40 yards. What could we deduce when premium shells have s shorter cloud length compared to promo shells? That the premium pellets have better uniformity compared to promo pellets? After all, we are paying premium dollars for them.
Everything was quesswork based on the photo presented and so labelled.
Harder shot, less deformation, better down range ballistics as a result. But I'm just speculating.
Never heard that one... Sounds like an insult.Just don't greet someone with "Oi pano de prato flácido" if you want to get back home Tim
What you see when you shoot at a duck on the water is just the pattern hitting the water. The bottom pellets of the pattern hit the water first below the duck and the top pellets of the pattern hit the water way farther out past the duck, just a little bit later.
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Granted, a level of WAG based on variables for a typical shotgun length of 48-52” and a trap load velocity of 1145-1200 fps. The shutter speed value was derived from a combination of several decades of empirical observations involving govmint paid for junior college level photographic course work and a whole lot of grain/pixel level examination of the effects of shutter speeds and camera movement on the acutance of a captured image. In combination with a simple ballpark computation involving the reasonably known velocity of the projectiles and the clearly delineated movement of the wad, I feel confident the values of this guesstimated photo interpretation are accurate to within ± 10% of what went down. Reasonably clear evidence that at this distance a shot string does not yet exist, derived from a level of guesswork at least 90% higher than making stuff up.
Or go on Shotgun World.
Tim just needs to remember some of the girls in the bars there are less 'short' than he is.
Never heard the saying " Like stuffing a wet dishrag into a coke bottle."?
I lived in Thailand for 4 years. You really have to watch out for this in bars in Bangkok. 😱Tim just needs to remember some of the girls in the bars there are less 'short' than he is.
Nope... But I have heard "like trying to play pool with a piece of rope" and "like trying to push a rope."
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