Trapshooters Forum banner
21 - 40 of 62 Posts
Sounds good Tim.

It you are bored this weekend, buried in here, somewhere, are shot clouds at 30 and 40 meters; but not with a trap choke, a Wilkinson barrel, a magical Super-X load, or 7 1/2s ;)

David J. Compton, “An Experimental and Theoretical Investigation of Shot Cloud Ballistics”, 1996
http://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/1382490/1/396689.pdf
Image
 
It you are bored this weekend
My weekend is full with preparation for, and participating in, online classes to further my quest to learn Portuguese. Did I mention it's a hard language to learn? A gazillion verb conjugations. And articles and adjectives have to follow both masculine/feminine and singular/plural of their attendant noun.

I know you struggle with the same stuff with Spanish...
 
You want to see the affects of shot string go to a club with a shot curtain. What is really amazing is how big the pattern is at shot curtain distance. A cow could walk through your pattens at shot cutrain distance. I would say just guessing the patern is at least 15 feet in diameter. I have no idea how long the shot string is but it's atleast 1/2 a second give or take that the pettets are striking the shot curtain.
PDave
Or shoot a duck on the water about 60 yards away, You can see some shot arrive late with eyes.
 
cant: the shot cloud is arriving at an acute angle so the appearance in the water is not an accurate measure of the shot string

This works. Bob Brister had his wife tow the target behind their station wagon :oops:

Image
 
Image


My best WAG.

The photo exposure began approximately 20 thousandths of a second after stuff left the barrel.

The duration of the camera exposure is approximately 1/1000 second. Point a1 is the location of the wad trailing edge when the exposure began. a2 is the leading edge of the wad at end of the exposure. Point b1 is where the slightly expanded fur ball of shot was when the exposure began. The distance between a1 and b1 is how far the shot was removed from the wad when the exposure began.

During the exposure the wad and shot were traveling at approximately 1,000-1,200 fps and would have traveled approximately 1-1.2 feet during the exposure which roughly appears to be the case in the photo when you extrapolate the length of the gun at approximately 4 feet.

The streak leading from the bore to a1 is a trail of “ejecta stuff” following the wad, hanging very momentarily in the still night air, highlighted by the floodlights /dark background and occurred prior to the photo exposure being taken.

b1-b2 is the shot “cloud” captured approximately 16-20 feet from the gun during 1/1000 second of flight. Approximately 2 feet in diameter and only beginning to transition from a ball of shot into a string several feet long.

a1-a2 is the flight of the wad recorded at a typical wad diameter of .75”, moving about a foot through the air and trailing the shot approximately 2’.
 
Until someone provides evidence, using a trap gun with trap ammunition, high speed photography and actual yardage measurements in the background (which is how I would do it if I had the time, equipment, and inclination) I am going to stick with "a trap shot string is somewhere between 1 inch and 100 feet."
Quit monkeying around down south and retire early. You can then join my cousin and I next month when we try to capture correct/precise imagery.
 
Discussion starter · #40 ·
What is anyone going to do with this info once we get it hashed out?
I will sleep better knowing that I have gained knowledge and wisdom Grasshopper. Plus, it's a neat photo.
 
21 - 40 of 62 Posts