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Sorry if this was covered in another thread. I searched and couldn't find an answer. I noticed that they are shooting O/U guns in the trap competition as opposed to single/unsingle etc. Can anyone enlighten me as to why, and whether or not this is common in competition? I was thinking it was either due to regulations or greater familiarity with their O/U firearm. I'm a relative newcomer to trap, and interested to know when a mono as opposed to double barrel setup may be employed (other than the obvious trap doubles vs singles scenario).

Thanks, and sorry if this is naive.
 
All the above is correct with the caveat that in the "final" round or championship round only one shot is allowed in World or Olympic competition. Not sure about lesser "regular" shoots. Most of what you are able to see on YouTube or Olympic broadcasts will be the medal rounds and so they will only shoot one shot at each target. But, they shoot the O/U gun that they are most familiar with. As an aside, in International Skeet, all medal rounds (I believe) are shot at doubles from posts 3, 4, & 5. Singles at the other posts are shot at, but only in the lower levels of the tournament to determine finalists. At least that's what I'm seeing in my limited view of both sports. Our Aussie/Brit friends here can correct if necessary.
 
I've shot some international skeet. I don't think they shoot doubles from 4, or at least didn't in the past. The doubles were shot from 2,3,5,6. It's a tough game and at the time I was breaking 100s in regular skeet a lot.

The Intl. Trap was a lot of fun. I broke in the low 80s, was a good score for me!
 
Most Olympic trap guns are 30". Some are 32" but not many.

Barrels are 1500-1600 usually. Chokes will be a minimum of 1/2 (Mod) and 3/4 (Imp. Mod). Most will be tighter than this. I think Perazzi suggest 6 and 9 for most "bunker" shooters.

The vast majority of guns are Beretta or Perazzi. The Hi Tech has taken over from the MX8/2000 as the latest, but many P guns are still MX models.

Low ribs are usual. The half high ribs were really a double trap idea.

Lots of people use the Ergo or similar fully adjustable stock. Otherwise they'll be custom timber stocks.

No release triggers.

As mentioned above the qualifying (125 targets in the individual events, 50 per shooter in the mixed pairs) is double barrel with no penalty for a second barrel hit. Most shooters will use at least a few seconds per round in qualifying, although I have seen James Willett hit 25/25 single barrel in qualifying. Even then some shooters will shoot chips every 4th or 5th shot to remind them to keep their head down. Michael Diamond, the best double barrel shooter ever, did this all the time-but then he didn't pay for his ammo!!

Ammo is 24g maximum at 1300+ fps. I just looked in my cupboard and I have Bornaghi All Blacks at 1340 and Clever Grand Italia at 1380.

Most will use 7 1/2s in both barrels. Some use 8s in the first. Wads must be translucent..

The final for individuals and the medal matches for the mixed pairs are single barrel only. I have never seen anyone shoot this with either a top or an unsingle. I threatened to do it once in a pairs medal match when I was using my 682, as I had a top single for it. Let's just say Lisa threatened in return to insert the barrel in a very uncomfrotable sounding area, so I didn't. Good thing too, as we came third. Tom and Penny, both Tokyo Olympians, were shooting as a pair that event and beat us to go into the gold medal match.

Competitors must call for the target within 12 seconds of the previous shot result being known. That's what the referee is doing with that button in his/her hand-resetting the timer which is displayed on 2 screens downrange at 45 degrees from the 1st and 5th pads. The screen counts down to 5 and then the numbers flash. I once jokingly offered to shoot it as it was annoying the cr@p out of me but I was reminded that would be a DQ.....

Flash (powder filled) targets are used for finals. Targets are 2mm wider than ATA targets, with a lower dome and a harder compound. All targets are 76 metres.
 
2018 ISSF rules:
Ported barrels are permitted, provided they do not extend back further than 20 cm as measured from the end of the muzzle, or as measured from the muzzle end of any interchangeable fitted choke. Interchangeable chokes (with or without porting) fitted to the end of the muzzle are permitted. In the case of ported interchangeable chokes, their porting (plus any barrel porting) shall not extend back further than 20 cm as measured from the muzzle end of the interchangeable fitted choke.
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Maxey
 
2018 ISSF rules:
Ported barrels are permitted, provided they do not extend back further than 20 cm as measured from the end of the muzzle, or as measured from the muzzle end of any interchangeable fitted choke. Interchangeable chokes (with or without porting) fitted to the end of the muzzle are permitted. In the case of ported interchangeable chokes, their porting (plus any barrel porting) shall not extend back further than 20 cm as measured from the muzzle end of the interchangeable fitted choke.
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Maxey
I wonder if that's why you see shooters using only one extended choke
 
Aus -

Do any of the Olympic shooters use recoil devices ,weights in the stock, or barrel porting.....OR is
Is any of it even allowed ? I assume MOST of the stocks are custom fitted !!!
As above re porting-I know Suzy Balogh won gold in Athens using a ported gun (and it's loud) I have never seen an OT shooter using other recoil reduction devices. But I don't think they are banned.

I wonder if that's why you see shooters using only one extended choke
This is because of the Perazzi habit of "fixed top, adjustable bottom". Michael Diamond and James Willett's MX guns are both like this. allthough MD's gun has flush chokes in the bottom. The trend for extended chokes post-dates much of his Olympic career, and why would you change his gun anyway?

The idea is to allow the shooter to customise the usually-used first barrel to cater for their own shooting cadence, and perhaps to choke up or down for finals.

I know that at least one top OT shooter down here goes from a 6 to an 8 for most finals.
 
A 6 and 8 is how Perazzi marks their chokes. Multiply the number by 4 to get the constriction in thousandths of a inch.
A 6 should be a .24 and the 8 should be a .32. Which is approximately IMOD/FULL.
Correct.

Micahel D's gun is a fixed 10 top (40 thou, full to very full to extra very full, depending on who you ask) and he shot a 5 bottom for DTL trap (similar to ATA) and a 6 or a 7 for Olympic I think.

Don't know what James' top barrel is-I suspect it's a 9.

Our other Olympic trap shooters that I know of shot 3/4 and full (IMod/F) in Berettas-DT11s for Penny and Laetisha and a 682 for Tom.

Lisa shot an SO5 fixed 3/4 and full in Sydney 2000. I think Deserie (double trap bronze in Atlanta) used a DT10 double trap model, fixed full top and adjustable bottom. Don't know what choke she used in the bottom-probably fairly open, like most double trap shooters, but I'm guessing.
 
2018 ISSF rules:
Ported barrels are permitted, provided they do not extend back further than 20 cm as measured from the end of the muzzle, or as measured from the muzzle end of any interchangeable fitted choke. Interchangeable chokes (with or without porting) fitted to the end of the muzzle are permitted. In the case of ported interchangeable chokes, their porting (plus any barrel porting) shall not extend back further than 20 cm as measured from the muzzle end of the interchangeable fitted choke.
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Maxey
Since Derrick Mein has ported barrels he has to use the shorter Pure Gold Champion chokes rather than the longer Diamond chokes to make sure that his porting is not too far back from the muzzle.
 
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