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Last year I bought a few flats of RST shells, when I couldn't find anything else to shoot. I didn't realize at the time that they were 2 1/2" shells. I've since shot through all that I bought, and I actually really love them from 16yds. My question is this: These are 8 shot, 1oz, 1175 FPS shells, which is essentially what I shoot in a 2 3/4" shell, so what is different about these that makes them shorter? Is the wad just shorter? If so, does that hinder their performance in some way?

Secondly, does anyone happen to know if these are legal for registered shoots? I've only used them in practice, but the specs meet ATA requirements, as far as I can tell. Not sure if they have any special coating on the shot, but I don't think so.
 
Oh great, RST shells are hard enough to get as it is and now someone wants to shoot them on a regular basis for trap :p They are a great shell as mentioned.

RST is a sponsor at most SxS shoots around the Country and donates shells for prizes. Last Saturday at the Duluth Double Gun Side X Side Classic when I went up to pick out my prize RST was notably absent, because they don't have shells to donate right now. I settled for a pack of Federals I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.

They do make copper plated shot for hunting but you know that when you buy them. If you can buy them, like the rest of us they are having a hard time getting components and are on backorder. Friend of mine who owns a house in SD where a few of us hunt pheasants in November each year can't get 16 ga. RST 7/8 oz. this year for grouse and woodcock in Wi. so I am loading up a couple of flats of 16 ga. 7/8 oz. 7.5 shot for him. They are Cheddite hulls which are the same that RST uses but I use 2 3/4" his 16's are not short chambered.

Another friend has a first year Winchester 21 and another an Elsie both in 12 ga. and they can't get RST shells this year either. Been reading how @mike campbell has been using Green Dot for 1 oz. loads for a couple of decades and he has done quite well at ATA shoots with them. And they are low pressure. I'm almost out of Clays powder so after he posted his load data recently I duplicated it although I don't have magnum primers so used Cheddites which is about all you can get now and even that isn't often. I'm very pleased with them and so are my friends with them in their guns. Although I didn't expect to end up reloading for other people this summer but whatever it takes to help keep everyone shooting.

RST is in Friendsville, Pa. and so is Hausmann’s Hidden Hollow Sporting Clays where the Northeast SxS Classic is held each year. One of these years I will make it "back" there for the annual shoot. Hausmann’s Hollow didn't exist until what to me is fairly recently. But I know the area well although it is about the farthest East I have hunted. A ruff grouse and phez. I took from the nearest Pa. SGL to Friendsville more than a few years back.

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Don't look for a downtown Friendsville LOL.
 
Last year I bought a few flats of RST shells, when I couldn't find anything else to shoot. I didn't realize at the time that they were 2 1/2" shells. I've since shot through all that I bought, and I actually really love them from 16yds. My question is this: These are 8 shot, 1oz, 1175 FPS shells, which is essentially what I shoot in a 2 3/4" shell, so what is different about these that makes them shorter? Is the wad just shorter? If so, does that hinder their performance in some way?

Secondly, does anyone happen to know if these are legal for registered shoots? I've only used them in practice, but the specs meet ATA requirements, as far as I can tell. Not sure if they have any special coating on the shot, but I don't think so.
I was given a box of them at a tournament one time. They hit hard from the 16
Steve
 
Great shells, using Cheddite hulls. I don't know the powders used.

"They are made for the older guns SxS have shorter chambers."
Correct.

"RST makes shells for the old SxS that can not shoot the higher pressure ammo made today."
Many who use vintage guns choose lighter loads for less recoil in light of the possibly >120 year old wood. Less shot at a lower fps usually do have lower pressure.
However
Period Smokeless Powder shells for which U.S. maker's doubles were designed, and proved, had very similar pressures, or higher, than today's loads

1895 "All bored for Nitro Powder"

1760310
 
This is RST's data from 2016; fps and psi

12g

Ultra Lite 2 1/2” 3/4 oz. 1125 4400

Falcon Lite 2 1/2” 7/8 oz. 1200 5400

Maxi Lite 2 1/2” 1 oz. 1125 5700

Lite 2 1/2” 1 1/16 oz. Roll Crimp Paper 1150 5900

“ “ Plastic 1150 6100

Premium Grade Pheasant 2 3/4” 1 1/4 oz. 1200 7800

16g

Ultra Lite 2 1/2” 3/4 oz. 1100 4600

Falcon Lite 2 1/2” 7/8 oz. 1125 7720

20g

Ultra Lite 2 1/2” 3/4 oz. 1100 6000

Falcon Lite 2 1/2” 7/8 oz. 1125 7200
 
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