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Just ran across this gun when I saw Pats thread in the vendors area.
100% made in Italy, adjustable comb, high rib (ATA world probably a mid rib)....and going for $1600-1700 around the internet.

Crazy that we keep seeing people wanting the Turkish guns when this exists. The flat/low rib model I'm seeing for $1300-1400 around the internet.

Found a thread on another forum and they had no hiccups after 30k rounds.
Thinking I might order one as a buddy gun.

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Carrera One HR | Italian Firearms Group


In that other thread there was only one picture with the stock off:
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They use these as loaner guns or rental guns at the Clark County Nevada ranges. I shot several rounds with this high rib and a low rib model while out there for the shot show. The handling felt like my Beretta silver pigeon.

Of the two I much prefer the high rib model, they put skeet chokes in and I tried it there as well, other than being light with the increase in felt recoil Compared to my K80 it swung pretty well.
 
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jsraney said:
What, you don't think cheap guns are made in Italy? Not saying their bad, but you get what you pay for in any country.
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True, but in this case the funds do not filter up and support a dictator and the Sunni Muslim religion.....

Given the choice of inexpensive guns, I’ll choose one made in Italy over Turkey. There are so many better inexpensive options out there in the new and used markets.

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fastarget said:
They seem to be holding up, ...
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And yet for every "Turkish guns are so cheap" thread on here is another equal thread about "I had to send my Krieghoff back for …." repairs thread. Metal is metal. Only the design can cheapen or make a faulty part. If you reduce a part design for economy, ease of manufacturing or to save a few bucks it doesn't matter what logo is on your house be it Westinghouse, General Motors, or Yugo. My Beretta keeps on rolling, but right next to it is my Kofs which hasn't ever had a flaw.
 
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I know nothing about that brand, but having carried Smith and Wesson handguns in the plain jane "M&P" finish, I can understand that plain finish does not have to mean poor quality, poor performance or undependable.

Marketing and Brand name is an expense also. A lesser name commands lesser dollars. Smaller corporation commands lesser dollars.

Our group includes people who can easily drop $6K on an upgraded stock, and we have people who had to sell stuff to by a used BT99. A good trap gun in plain finish for a value price is not a bad thing.
 
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wasn't Italy an axis power? hmm....
oh oh! so was Germany.

GOD BLESS Winchester, Remington, and all the others. need a cheap gun? buy American.

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back on topic.

fairs im told, are the cheap version of perazzi.
but....there are plenty of cheaper Italian guns out there, just not many with so many fads... I mean features.
one thing ya gotta hand to the italians...they've been doing it for a long long time.
 
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bobski said:
wasn't Italy an axis power? hmm....
oh oh! so was Germany.

GOD BLESS Winchester, Remington, and all the others. need a cheap gun? buy American.

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back on topic.

fairs im told, are the cheap version of perazzi.
but....there are plenty of cheaper Italian guns out there, just not many with so many fads... I mean features.
one thing ya gotta hand to the italians...they've been doing it for a long long time.
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Italy was an alliance partner in WWI, it wasn’t until it succumbed to Benito in the interwar period that it became our enemy. Note that during WWII a lot of Italians acted as covert warriors on the side of the USA and other allied nations.
 
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I had one of those high rib FAIR shotguns. Sold it to fund a Zoli Z sport. But, it was not a bad gun, at all - the action type in the receiver looked to be identical as a B Rizzini or Caesar Guerini. It had nice bluing, barrels converged at 30 yards, but it had very plain wood and oil finish. It swung like a Browning, barrels were heavier than a Beretta. I'd call it a well built budget workhorse. It is made by I Rizzini, among others. "Italian Firearms Group"
 
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hbar314 said:
Just ran across this gun when I saw Pats thread in the vendors area.
100% made in Italy, adjustable comb, high rib (ATA world probably a mid rib)....and going for $1600-1700 around the internet.

Crazy that we keep seeing people wanting the Turkish guns when this exists. The flat/low rib model I'm seeing for $1300-1400 around the internet.

Found a thread on another forum and they had no hiccups after 30k rounds.
Thinking I might order one as a buddy gun.

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Carrera One HR | Italian Firearms Group


In that other thread there was only one picture with the stock off:
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Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Im looking for a utility gun, this one may fit the bill. I would need some details before going further.
bore diameter (need to know for sub gauge inserts), what chokes come with the gun? and are they a "one of a kind thread"?, is the rib "narrow or WIDE".
There is a dealer within driving distance, but I would call to find out if he has any of these in stock.
Ive looked at Browning 725's, there are some things I'd rather not have, and browning dont seem to offer choices-one way.
 
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rosies dad said:
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Im looking for a utility gun, this one may fit the bill. I would need some details before going further.
bore diameter (need to know for sub gauge inserts), what chokes come with the gun? and are they a "one of a kind thread"?, is the rib "narrow or WIDE".
There is a dealer within driving distance, but I would call to find out if he has any of these in stock.
Ive looked at Browning 725's, there are some things I'd rather not have, and browning dont seem to offer choices-one way.
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Those are good questions for a dealer, @Patrick McCabe you know?
 
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I think this post is about a Italian low cost gun and not politics and or history, right "bobski " ? If I can find a gun that has no "Hickups" after 30000 round & is lees then $ 1800.oo ,that might be a gun to get . Given somebody in the US has parts & can fix them down the road . Long ,long time ago Franchi guns came on the market here , good guns,great triggers > NO spare parts . Same with Rottweil .Just about gone ,now . One has to think about the use for the gun . For a bit of claytarget shooting twice a month I would get one ,but for 12 to 15000 claytargets a year > NO . Because Metal is NOT Metal !! > "timb99" probably can explain that better ,because I might have missed a few classes in school/college.:) :)
 
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rosies dad said:
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Im looking for a utility gun, this one may fit the bill. I would need some details before going further.
bore diameter (need to know for sub gauge inserts), what chokes come with the gun? and are they a "one of a kind thread"?, is the rib "narrow or WIDE".
There is a dealer within driving distance, but I would call to find out if he has any of these in stock.
Ive looked at Browning 725's, there are some things I'd rather not have, and browning dont seem to offer choices-one way.
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All the answers to these questions can be found on FAIR's website - they even list the type of metal they make the barrels from.
 
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