Are they worth the money? How adjustable is the rib on the unsingle? Is the 725 with an unsingle barrel close to a Bt-99? How much should I expect to pay for a used combo? Thanks
Browning 725 trap combo opinions?
Mr. Pump Gun
21 - 40 of 61 Posts
Joined
·
461 Posts
The only Combo that Browning currently makes for sale through their retailers is the Cynergy. Guns Unlimited actually persuaded Browning to produce the 725 Combo for them, in exchange for buying a certain amount of them every year.
Joined
·
461 Posts
Definitely. I had a RAD system put on my 725 Sporting to tame it's recoil. And I've shot 725's combo's with and without a Gracoil and there is a definite difference. Also being able to adjust the LOP and drop and angle of the butt pad on the Gracoil is another advantage. You'll never miss the money you spent on it and at the end of a 600 round day, your shoulder will thank you.
Joined
·
461 Posts
Here's a low res picture the guys at Guns Unlimited sent me of the gun I bought. This is of course before the adjustable comb is cut and the GraCoil installed, but it looks like a really nice piece of walnut for just a Grade 1 gun.
Attachments
Joined
·
631 Posts
That is some beautiful wood!
Joined
·
4,758 Posts
I love the feel of the 725. I would buy Monte Carlo stock and have a much better adjustable comb put on by a good stock man.
I believe Browning's are top quality guns at an affordable price.
I believe Browning's are top quality guns at an affordable price.
Joined
·
1,060 Posts
Guns Unlimited has a local stock man fit their adjustable combs with Graco hardware.
Joined
·
1,060 Posts
If you get one, if possible, go to Omaha and pick it from their inventory. Ask for Dan. He treated me and my wife like we were his first cousins, and let me look at as many as I wanted to for wood selection. I must have looked at 15, and he was not irritated in the least. We stayed at Harrah's that night. It was the most enjoyable buying experience I have ever had. So far, I have yet to shoot any better with it than my XT, but it's winter and I have not really tinkered with the rib. Maybe I never will be more than a C shooter with it, but so far, I am quite happy with it so far. The only drawback to Browning IMO is that they won't fit new barrels. If you somehow wreck your barrel, your gun is toast.
Joined
·
461 Posts
Here's an update on my 725 Combo: I received mine from Gun Unlimited about 2 days before I had to leave for the Spring Grand. I only shot one round of singles with it before leaving for Tucson.
I didn't make any adjustments to the gun at all, I left the comb flat and centered.
The first day of competition, I shot a 93 in handicap and a 93 in doubles. The next day I shot a 98 in singles.
So being the idiot trap shooter that I am, I started adjusting the comb and rib on the under single and my scores plummeted! I spent hours at the patterning board trying to get the gun dialed in for me but to no avail.
Back home, I spent more time with it at the pattering board and got it to where I wanted it.
Next tournament, I must have bumped the rib on the under-single barrel as I wasn't hitting any targets in my first round of handicap shooting. I put the double barrel back on and my scores jumped back up to where I usually shoot.
When I got home, I closely inspected the under-single barrel and found that the hex nuts that hold the mid part of the bead had been bumped down and were consequently holding the rear bead lower that where I had set it with the adjustment screw. IMO this is a big potential problem for this gun as the rear part of the rib is held up against the adjustment screw by a spring, and if the mid part of the rib where the hex screws hold the rib in place get jolted or bumped out of alignment, it can ruin your POI settings. In my case I found that the gun was shooting about 10 inches to low at 13 yards! When I loosened the hex nuts, the rib sprang buck up to where I had previously set.
Working with my instructor, we got the comb and beads adjusted so that all the barrels shoot about 80-20. The gun is working well for me again as I just scored a 100 with it in singles and a good solid 94 in handicap during practice.
Overall I'm very happy with the gun. It's well balanced, and with the GraCoil system, it's extremely soft shooting and easy to adjust for shoulder alignment and length of pull. I'm glad I bought the 725 Combo. It's a huge value for the money spent.
I didn't make any adjustments to the gun at all, I left the comb flat and centered.
The first day of competition, I shot a 93 in handicap and a 93 in doubles. The next day I shot a 98 in singles.
So being the idiot trap shooter that I am, I started adjusting the comb and rib on the under single and my scores plummeted! I spent hours at the patterning board trying to get the gun dialed in for me but to no avail.
Back home, I spent more time with it at the pattering board and got it to where I wanted it.
Next tournament, I must have bumped the rib on the under-single barrel as I wasn't hitting any targets in my first round of handicap shooting. I put the double barrel back on and my scores jumped back up to where I usually shoot.
When I got home, I closely inspected the under-single barrel and found that the hex nuts that hold the mid part of the bead had been bumped down and were consequently holding the rear bead lower that where I had set it with the adjustment screw. IMO this is a big potential problem for this gun as the rear part of the rib is held up against the adjustment screw by a spring, and if the mid part of the rib where the hex screws hold the rib in place get jolted or bumped out of alignment, it can ruin your POI settings. In my case I found that the gun was shooting about 10 inches to low at 13 yards! When I loosened the hex nuts, the rib sprang buck up to where I had previously set.
Working with my instructor, we got the comb and beads adjusted so that all the barrels shoot about 80-20. The gun is working well for me again as I just scored a 100 with it in singles and a good solid 94 in handicap during practice.
Overall I'm very happy with the gun. It's well balanced, and with the GraCoil system, it's extremely soft shooting and easy to adjust for shoulder alignment and length of pull. I'm glad I bought the 725 Combo. It's a huge value for the money spent.
Joined
·
288 Posts
Now that you have the rib set where you want it put a little blue Loc-Tite on the threads of the mid rib screws(2) otherwise they will loosen up when you shoot. This was not in the owners manual, but I called Browning and that is what they said to do. I like my 725 combo.
Joined
·
461 Posts
Yes I did do that, but the screws must not have been tight enough because when the rib was jarred, the middle and back of the rib moved down and were then held into that jarred position by the hex screws. As I mentioned when I un-tightened the screws, the rib sprang back into its place. Thus my experience is to serve as a warning to others that the rib on the 725 under single is a potential trouble spot and should be handled very carefully. Glad you like your combo. I do too, it just really surprised me to have this particular issue.
Joined
·
339 Posts
This is a great gun! I actually just had a friend of mine buy one and I got to shoot it yesterday. Absolutely smokeballed my first shot out of it.
This is not a high rib gun. It is very much like shooting an over and under that just simply doesn’t have the to barrel. Compared to the CG summit and Fabarm Axis RS12 combo’s id say one of the biggest selling points is the weight (seems light, swings nice) and the factory adjustable comb and gracoil just make it that much nicer. I’ve heard people talk about felt movement of the gun with the recoil reducers on them but it really didn’t seem to affect me. It could be different for other people and your head position on the stock. Best thing you can do is try one for yourself. Browsing goes to quite a few big shoots and I’m sure they have a demo gun to try. Last listed price I saw was $4,800 for the combo with the comb and gracoil system.
Good Luck!
Joined
·
1,172 Posts
Great shooting gun. I bought my 725 unsingle about 2.5 years ago from G.U, left hand with palm swell, grayco adjustable comb and adjustable recoil set up. Like everyone said, once you get it shoot where you want, leave it alone and enjoy it.
Joined
·
1,895 Posts
Was looking at one also --Installed a Gracoil instead on my XT combo -- Browning just came out with the 725 pro max with a adjustable rib on the double barrel. If they get that priced in line and make that a combo I will buy one --Ken is right on the Loctite --Lost my screws and washers right around $50 for the set--
Joined
·
54 Posts
I have the 725 unsingle combo from guns unlimited. I got the Monte Carlo and had the comb cut when I put a soft touch on it. I have had it for a year now and love it. I use a briley improved modified choke and winchester AA shells and it really smokes the birds. +1 for Dan at guns unlimited. He sent me pics of the wood options so I could choose which one I liked best.
Joined
·
381 Posts
For my 725 combo, after 3 shoulder surgeries the Gracoil was a necessity! My current Beretta 687 combo has one as well.
Joined
·
381 Posts
He did a great job on mine!
Joined
·
1,083 Posts
*.*
21 - 40 of 61 Posts
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
