I've been looking at 3200s and have gotten a lot of info on the "gunsmithing" forum about updates, etc. My question now is about the 3200 Premier. I've seen a couple available just wanting info from experience or opinion. Thanks
Remington 3200 Premier ?
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I've been looking at 3200s and have gotten a lot of info on the "gunsmithing" forum about updates, etc. My question now is about the 3200 Premier. I've seen a couple available just wanting info from experience or opinion. Thanks
The 3200 Premier , there were 500 made.
I think they were made for the international market.
Just over 100 of them went to Belgium for engraving.
These are the most desirable.
Just a fancy 3200 as I recall along the lines of the 1 of 1000 gun.
Its All Good
West
I think they were made for the international market.
Just over 100 of them went to Belgium for engraving.
These are the most desirable.
Just a fancy 3200 as I recall along the lines of the 1 of 1000 gun.
Its All Good
West
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West, Has it Right.....Limited Run of 500.....Were Sold at PX at US Bases Overseas. Same As the One of Thousand...But with The Word Premier in Place of One Of Thousand in Scroll.
One of the Hundred that were Engraved in Belgium are Very Rare and Hard to Find...Have Only Ever Seen One...in My Hands.
The Other Limited Run ...are the Pigeon Grade Gun..and Marked with Gold Tinted Pigeon on Center of Bottom. Only 250 Produced .
What Ever Model You are able to Find....You will Shoot and Enjoy..JMO...Remingtons Best .
One of the Hundred that were Engraved in Belgium are Very Rare and Hard to Find...Have Only Ever Seen One...in My Hands.
The Other Limited Run ...are the Pigeon Grade Gun..and Marked with Gold Tinted Pigeon on Center of Bottom. Only 250 Produced .
What Ever Model You are able to Find....You will Shoot and Enjoy..JMO...Remingtons Best .
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IMO, Remington's best was the model 32. The 3200 was a cheaper to produce take-off that had several problems from the get-go that had to be fixed over the years. They had there day and its over now. Every shooter that has bought one at our club in the last 10 years sold it within the first year and lost there ass in the process. After they had Laib's repair there guns that they thought they would keep forever. Parts and repairs will cost you dearly today for this gun. You've been fore-warned. JMO & 2 cents now. break em all Jeff
I had a 3200 back in the day. I can't understand today's interest in them. I found I couldn't
shoot it. IMO, the thing swung like a club. After trying to shoot it for just over a year, I put it
on the used rack on consignment where I bought it. It took about a year and a half for that
dog to follow someone home. Yes, I lost money on this endeavor.
Even after the therapy I get flashbacks. What a POS!
Erv
IMO, Remington's best is the 870. At least they work, don't wear out quickly, and Remington
made money on every one they sold. They're also the best engineered pump shotgun. Cheaply
built and not liable to get out of order.
This is not to hijack the thread about 3200's.
shoot it. IMO, the thing swung like a club. After trying to shoot it for just over a year, I put it
on the used rack on consignment where I bought it. It took about a year and a half for that
dog to follow someone home. Yes, I lost money on this endeavor.
Even after the therapy I get flashbacks. What a POS!
Erv
IMO, Remington's best is the 870. At least they work, don't wear out quickly, and Remington
made money on every one they sold. They're also the best engineered pump shotgun. Cheaply
built and not liable to get out of order.
This is not to hijack the thread about 3200's.
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I think the 3200's are good guns. I owned 1 and wish I never sold it. The reason I sold it was I got a offer I couldn't refuse and I sure didn't loose money on it. I would take a 3200 over a standard Citori any day. Remington sold the rights to the old model 32 to krieghoff Because they got a offer they couldn't refuse.
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Well, everybody has their own opinions about what gun they think is "good" and so forth. 3200's have a loyal following amongst a small cadre of believers. Comparing them to a Citori???? Look at what's being shot at shoots across the country. A lot of Citori's and very few 3200's. Each person can interpret that fact as they see fit...…. Personally, I admire loyalty. I think it is a noble attribute - especially so when for a lost cause.
And before you proceed to tell me they aren't making 3200's anymore - and that is why Citori shotguns outnumber 3200's - ask yourself why they aren't still making 3200's...…. (Hint: The Citori was a better gun for less money.)
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I'm sorry to have to divulge this to you, but your remark (above) is completely wrong. You might benefit from reading some gunmaker history, to wit:
Remington, essentially, gave away the rights to the Model 32. They had no interest in reviving it after WW-II. It was a huge mistake on their part - one they still regret to this day. That said, Hal du Pont worked his tail off promoting his Krieghoff Model 32. The Krieghoff Model 32 was a slow seller at first (and was always a slow seller for Remington), but he believed in the product and never gave up. Then, it caught on, thanks to his marketing and promotions at big skeet and trap shoots across the country. And the rest is history. Krieghoff is #1 today, in no small part, because of the pioneer marketing and promotional efforts of Hal du Pont. He is a cornerstone in the story of Krieghoff International. I cannot speak for the man, but I'd guess he never lost any sleep over the introduction of the Remington 3200. As for the 3200 itself...….. it was obviously a feeble attempt on the part of Remington to mitigate the negative affects of the massive error they made by letting go of the 32 production rights to Europa Corporation/Hal du Pont.
But, this is nothing new; the history of man is full of massive errors...……...
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Well it will never be worse than Xerox throwing away Windows to Microsoft and Apple.
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Post my contact info at your club and I will help them get rid of their pesky problem 3200s.....
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I had five of them at one time and loved everyone of them. They were a little hefty but because of it they didn't recoil as bad as a lighter o/u. The weight smoothed your gun swing too. Hell, a lot of the popular trap guns swing like a club and the benefits are the same. I smoked the targets with them. As always Remington and Winchester omes out with a gun then discontinues them instead of keeping them in production and bettering them. I think a Remington 3200 combo would have been great.
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.....Stan Baker unsingle.
As is often the case, the original question on these posts gets a lot of answers that are far-flung. The original question about the premier was answered very well. As to the quality of the 3200, yes, it is certainly not like I certainly not a k 32, or Remington 32, but it is a very good gun in many people's hands. You don't see many of them because they are getting older. However, still a great pointing gun with high reliability. Worth a thousand bucks that you'll spend for a regular one, it's a lot of gun.
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When the Citori and 3200 were both in production it wasn't even close as to which one was the most popular. The 3200 was definitely more popular.
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I have a 3200 special trap Ben shooting it for 22 years .also have a Stan baker unsingle 34" love it no recoil had laibs work on it it's like brand new I call it a poor man's k80
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Which makes one wonder why the 3200 didn't stay in production and the Citori did...….. It's a crazy world.
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Why isn't the model 12 in production? The reason is cost of manufacture.
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That's the exact reason why Remington sold the rights to the Model 32. The cost of manufacture was just to high for the model 32. They could not make enough money on the gun in the price range they wanted to sell in. So they redesigned a shotgun that was easier and cheaper to produce in the price range for the marketplace they wanted to be competitive in. When the market changed Remington and Winchester did not retool to stay in the marketplace. Browning did. You have to match the competition at any given time. Browning had to retool to be competitive with Turkish made shotguns. They simply just went back to the basic's game. Or shall we say they used the Kiss system/Keep It Simple Stupid. break em all Jeff
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Remington 3200 made in USA. Winchester Model 12 Made in USA. Browning Citori made in Japan. Maybe some companies refused to be competitive if it had to be made in Asia. Granted Winchester caved in the break action gun dept.
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