I have read the manual. I am interested in getting feedback on the process of setting up a PFS. Did you go to a stock fitter? Did you buy measuring tools or just use rulers and a compass? How hard was it to get set up initially?
Setting UP Precision Fit Stock
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Some years ago, I bought, read, and digested the Stock Fitter's Bible by Rollin Oswald. This enabled me to understand stocks and stock dimensions, how to make adjustments, the effect of those adjustments, and making the stock fit you. That was some of the best money that I ever spent.
With that knowledge, setting up the PFs was pretty easy to do. I remember having things 'roughed in' in about 20 minutes. I also made some minor adjustments after shooting and trying the PFS.
Perhaps you know somebody that owns a PFS and can get you pointed in the right direction?
With that knowledge, setting up the PFs was pretty easy to do. I remember having things 'roughed in' in about 20 minutes. I also made some minor adjustments after shooting and trying the PFS.
Perhaps you know somebody that owns a PFS and can get you pointed in the right direction?
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I set mine to the specs of my 682, worked out fine
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It depends on why you bought it? If you liked the stock you had, but needed recoil reduction, start with the factory measurements and go from there. Unless you have some unusual physical dimensions, starting out with the measurements from your original stock will get you in the neighborhood, patterning board will help you get it dialed in. Just remember, small changes at a time and generally one dimension at a time. Making multiple changes at the same time generally hurts more than helps once the initial setup is done. One of these and a steel straight edge is what I use most of the time. You can get them from any large hardware store.
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It's a neat tool to have, but not necessary to fit a PFS in my experence. Again it comes down to why you bought the PFS, if you know where you want to go, such as shorten it 1/4", then it's not necessary. If you don't have any preconceived reasons for why you want a custom fit, you are probably going to need some help, at least to start with. Keep a record of the changes you make while you are setting it up, so that you can back up if a change doesn't produce the desired results.
Start with one of the above mentioned books and read it until you understand the effect the changes you make will have. Professional stock fitting has so many variables including how you mount the gun and your shooting style that may need to be addressed before you start cranking wrenches on the PFS. A PFS is not a magic wand, improperly set up and you will miss as many targets as you did with a wood stock. Once you have it shooting where you want, tighten it down and resist the urge to change it with varying conditions or a poor performance.
I have found the only measurement I have needed to make by ruler is LOP. The remainder can be done with a mirror and a pattern board.
The mirror is useful in seeing feedback of head position and eye alignment. Comfort is something you feel at home and at tbe range.
I have expanded and contracted often during my shooting career. Vern’s stock has been a real money saver for me.
I recall one particular shoot when I was not happy with my first day performance after a layoff. I noted it seemed I was having difficulty achieving consistent head placement. That evening I tweaked and tweaked in front of the mirror looking for the magic position. I found it.
I define magic position as tbe spot where all is adjusted for comfort, eye alignment with the rib and easily repeatable gun mounting to achive the previously mentioned.
I feel like the mirror was of greater assistance than a ruler could have been. You just can not locate the right roll of the comb for your face with a ruler.
The book stresses this but it is worth emphasizing. Insure the comb does not bottom out into the grip.
Good luck!
The mirror is useful in seeing feedback of head position and eye alignment. Comfort is something you feel at home and at tbe range.
I have expanded and contracted often during my shooting career. Vern’s stock has been a real money saver for me.
I recall one particular shoot when I was not happy with my first day performance after a layoff. I noted it seemed I was having difficulty achieving consistent head placement. That evening I tweaked and tweaked in front of the mirror looking for the magic position. I found it.
I define magic position as tbe spot where all is adjusted for comfort, eye alignment with the rib and easily repeatable gun mounting to achive the previously mentioned.
I feel like the mirror was of greater assistance than a ruler could have been. You just can not locate the right roll of the comb for your face with a ruler.
The book stresses this but it is worth emphasizing. Insure the comb does not bottom out into the grip.
Good luck!
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As an owner of three Precision Fit Stocks, which were purchased to resolve fit issues (1/2 in. lateral comb offset), the most useful setup process has been a straight edge (yardstick) and rulers to rough in the dimensions based on experience with the stocks the PFS units replace and what has been found to work well (Wenig's HC 2 pattern), a SiteLite bore sighting laser combined with Neil Winston's 13 yd patterning suggestions to refine the stock settings. This is followed by shooting targets at handicap distance with a trap set to throw straight targets to verify the POI and then set for angle targets to make sure too much or too little cheek pressure does not cause problems. After 500-1000 rounds (handicap and doubles) and usually some really minor tweaking, the adjustment tools stay in the tool box - discipline is required here to avoid chasing lost targets with the Allen wrenches that come with your stock. Confirmation of adjustments by actually shooting is an important part of the process, as a stock that is close to the right dimensions can almost always be forced to fit under static conditions and also almost always leads to lost targets during competition. The bore-sighting laser is a useful tool even after everything is dialed in; it enables periodic assessments of the effects of the annual weight gains and losses that most of us seem to go through each season.
Good luck with your new stock, Pat
Good luck with your new stock, Pat
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mine came in the mail today and after getting everything out of the package, removed the stock installed the grip then the unit and set it up so i was looking down the rib and my beads were like a snow man, took all but a half hour, will pattern and shoot some tomorrow
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the stock worked great, i adjusted the comb so the gun shot a 80/20 on a pattern board, my first 2 rounds were 23 and 22, the recoil was reduced a lot and the muzzle was coming straight back not jumping up. I will shoot a few more rounds with it today
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