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hi,

Please, somebody can share a link because i cant found it, where i can learn about ase shotgun evolution and compatibility

Ase, asel, ase-l, ase90, ase gold ,dt10, dt11

Ase gold receiver is narrow than ase 90

Dt10 barrels fits ase gold

Some so4 receiver fits ase90 barrels

Ase90 are boheler steel, dt10 are not

Some ase90 have barrel selector

I want to learn about this shotgun
 
If you find a source let me know, as I have been looking for the exact same thing for some time. I have called several reputable dealers and finally Beretta themselves and this is what I have been told. The ASE-90 was built for the 1990 olympics and was largely hand done- so much so that it is considered to be a box lock version of the SO series of shotguns, which is Berettas premium line. They came with a spare set of dropout triggers as well. Supposedly a few thousand ASEs were found after the ASE Gold has come out and Beretta took them, and engraved them in an English scroll style and sold them as premium shotguns. The cost was high for Beretta to produce, so they then built the ASE Gold which is nearly the same gun but only came with one trigger. Many of the ASEs were made with Boehler Antinit barrels though not all. To further cut cost, the ASE was replaced by the DT10. The DT10L and EELL hand more hand chased engraving, or sideplates, upgraded wood, and some parts were hand polished. They were created in the “Due” factory where the SO series are made. The standard DT10 was not. Now the DT11 has replaced the DT10 and even more of it is created by CNC machining. It has a wider action but uses the same trigger group as that of the DT10. From what I have been told, the ASEs are interchangeable but the barrels and triggers will not interchange with any DT shotguns. The barrels of the DT10 will not interchange with the DT11 but the triggers will. If any of this information is incorrect someone please let me know. I don’t own ASEs or DT11s but had researched all I could when looking for a competition shotgun recently. This information is based on my conversations with Beretta, Cole Gun, and Joel Etchen as well some gun owner who had ASEs.
 
If you find a source let me know, as I have been looking for the exact same thing for some time. I have called several reputable dealers and finally Beretta themselves and this is what I have been told. The ASE-90 was built for the 1990 olympics and was largely hand done- so much so that it is considered to be a box lock version of the SO series of shotguns, which is Berettas premium line. They came with a spare set of dropout triggers as well. Supposedly a few thousand ASEs were found after the ASE Gold has come out and Beretta took them, and engraved them in an English scroll style and sold them as premium shotguns. The cost was high for Beretta to produce, so they then built the ASE Gold which is nearly the same gun but only came with one trigger. Many of the ASEs were made with Boehler Antinit barrels though not all. To further cut cost, the ASE was replaced by the DT10. The DT10L and EELL hand more hand chased engraving, or sideplates, upgraded wood, and some parts were hand polished. They were created in the “Due” factory where the SO series are made. The standard DT10 was not. Now the DT11 has replaced the DT10 and even more of it is created by CNC machining. It has a wider action but uses the same trigger group as that of the DT10. From what I have been told, the ASEs are interchangeable but the barrels and triggers will not interchange with any DT shotguns. The barrels of the DT10 will not interchange with the DT11 but the triggers will. If any of this information is incorrect someone please let me know. I don’t own ASEs or DT11s but had researched all I could when looking for a competition shotgun recently. This information is based on my conversations with Beretta, Cole Gun, and Joel Etchen as well some gun owner who had ASEs.

Sounds like someone has the same amount of drive when it comes to trying to find something out as I do!
 
I honestly can't remember his opinions on the ASE but changing guns was never something he did without a lot of thought and consideration.
The DT10 had a Stock Lock added, one that fit his huge hands. The first Rough Draft of the stock wouldn't fit in his Americase because the grip was so big. A second try got it to fit in the case.
The original Stock Lock was much heavier but as time went by, Pat made improvements that made it lighter, something to do with titanium? Whatever it was, Leo loved it.
Switching to the new DT11 proved to be much easier than he expected. After I accidentally took his DT10 off the grounds during the Grand, he borrowed a DT11 off the display wall in the Beretta building, won the event and was assured that he could switch.
 
I have owned over 1o ASEs, about 10 DT10s and 2 DT11s in my life. Pretty much every configuration/model there is including Skeet, Sporting, Trap and International trap models. Lussos, Golds, "regular" ASE 90s as well as 2 ASE L models. While I am certainly no expert, I do know a fair bit about them including which barrel sets and trigger groups will interchange with one another. I don't frequent this site very often anymore, but if you have any questions you think I may be able to help out with, feel free to drop me a message. I should hopefully get an email alert and subsequently be able to respond. Also, I was fortunate enough to purchase Leo's ASE 90 via auction a few years ago. I have purchased and sold many shotguns through the years, but that is one of the few I hold onto.
 
Swadehead is probably the most knowledgeable of all the ASE shooters on this site, as far as I know. I've had a Sporting for 4 years now and must say it is a great gun: build quality, triggers, reliability. The longest barrels available were 30" in the O/U because 32" barrels weren't quite in vogue, at least in this country, when the gun was being imported. I'd rank it with Perazzi in terms of quality.

I am not sure Beretta had to "buy" the rights to build a dropout trigger since, to my knowledge, no patents applied to the P gun's trigger. Beretta's design is somewhat different.
 
I am not sure Beretta had to "buy" the rights to build a dropout trigger since, to my knowledge, no patents applied to the P gun's trigger. Beretta's design is somewhat different.[/QUOTE]

The Perazzi trigger was patented by Mattarelli . Not renewed on expiry
 
I've had a Sporting for 4 years now and must say it is a great gun: build quality, triggers, reliability. The longest barrels available were 30" in the O/U because 32" barrels weren't quite in vogue, at least in this country, when the gun was being imported.
Like H3phil, I also have a 30" Sporting model of the ASE90 with the Boehler -Antinite barrels. I think they are actually 29 1/2" lg. I had and adjustable comb put on it, and it has a complete Briley Ultimate Ultralight tube system for the 3 other small gauges. It was my "go-to" gun when I was shooting registered skeet. I LOVE my K-80's and have 2 tubed guns, but just seem to shoot the ASE90 better in registered skeet. I just love the sound of the "bank-vault" THUD when closing the barrels. Everything thing about this gun is a work of art. It's really amazing how many people have never even seen (or heard) of the various versions of this gun. I had a chance years ago to picture up a couple of other ones, but it just "in the cards" (or my pocketbook, at the time), but I so wish I had gotten them. I still pull it out of the safe every so often, and just love smashing clays with it !!!

Mike* (MH*)
Victoria TX
 
I have owned over 1o ASEs, about 10 DT10s and 2 DT11s in my life. Pretty much every configuration/model there is including Skeet, Sporting, Trap and International trap models. Lussos, Golds, "regular" ASE 90s as well as 2 ASE L models. While I am certainly no expert, I do know a fair bit about them including which barrel sets and trigger groups will interchange with one another. I don't frequent this site very often anymore, but if you have any questions you think I may be able to help out with, feel free to drop me a message. I should hopefully get an email alert and subsequently be able to respond. Also, I was fortunate enough to purchase Leo's ASE 90 via auction a few years ago. I have purchased and sold many shotguns through the years, but that is one of the few I hold onto.
hey mate I have some questions about the ASE
Hope your still ok here. Cheers
 
You kind of need to look at this backwards in time.

The Beretta DT-10 was perhaps the first 'high end' shotgun that was primarily made through CNC engineering rather than all hand fitting (much like Kimber pistols).

The ASE series was supposed to fill this roll, but they ended up needing a lot more hand work than was predicted (or desired), which made the guns expensive. Yes there is some cross over between the DT-10 (and I presume the DT-11) for parts interchangeability with the ASE series, but it is not 100% (e.g., - some ASE barrel sets can be mounted on a DT-10, but not all).

If memory serves me when Beretta opened their newer factory (Beretta 2) there was a lot of movement of materials, etc. And as mentioned above a bunch of ASE frames were 'lost.' The same is apparently true for some 682 frames. When found Beretta, not ones to waste money, reintroduced these guns aimed specifically at the US market. (Again, if memory serves me these were the 'gold' series guns).

Here is a link to another discussion on 'double gun shop.' - Comments on Beretta ASEL
 
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