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I have a 1970's 1100 Trap with monte carlo stock. I need more drop at comb. I found a field stock which is close, but has too much drop at heel. Does anyone know what the drops are for the straight trap stock?

Still looking for a straight trap stock to try.
 
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I understand the drop at heel is the same. I am trying to find the difference in drop at comb or maybe it's the drop at the mid point of the comb. I found a magazine ad from 1972 at it looks like there is about a half inch difference. With my monte carlo stock, my eye is about 1/2 inch above the rib. I'm trying to determine if a straight trap stock would correct this or do I need to have the monte carlo stock cut down.
 
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Hi Lee:

I'm not sure if this will apply to your Remington 1100 Monte Carlo stock, or the straight Trap stock you're looking for, but since you said your gun is from the 1970s, below are some excerpts from the 1977 Remington catalog.
Sorry, it's kind of fuzzy . . . the original PDF is low-resolution.

- If the specifications quoted by Remington in this catalog match your stock, then it looks like your Monte Carlo stock has a constant drop of 1-3/8" (Drop at Comb and Drop at Monte Carlo are both listed as 1-3/8").

- And back in the 1970s, it looks like their non-Monte Carlo Trap stock had a little bit of slope to it as verified by the picture below (Drop at Comb is 1-3/8", while Drop at Heel is 1-3/4"). Again, if the quoted specs are accurate, then it looks like the drop in the area where your face would go would be about 1-1/2" (give or take 1/16").

-So, if you are truly able to obtain a 1970s-era non-Monte Carlo stock, it looks like the Drop dimension where your face lands on the stock will only be about 1/8" lower than your current stock. If you really need your eye to go a lot lower than that, you'd likely need to remove wood from that stock, too. Seems such a stock would not be a "swap-it-out instant cure" for you.

- Not sure if a Remington stock from some other decade would help you either. Remington seems to have changed Trap stock dimensions (a little) over the years, but only 1/16" or so. Current Remington Trap guns all seem to be Monte Carlo only . . . not sure when a non-Monte Carlo was last offered.

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Lee Barnett said:
I understand the drop at heel is the same. I am trying to find the difference in drop at comb or maybe it's the drop at the mid point of the comb. I found a magazine ad from 1972 at it looks like there is about a half inch difference. With my monte carlo stock, my eye is about 1/2 inch above the rib. I'm trying to determine if a straight trap stock would correct this or do I need to have the monte carlo stock cut down.
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There is NO factory stock that will give you nearly 2" drop at the comb, and in fact it may not even be possible given the stock tube depending on where you put your face. 2" drop at the comb is a LOT, and a LOT more than 99% of people need.

You say a field stock is close, but a monte carlo trap is 1/2" too high, that is basically impossible since there is only about 1/8" of difference in DAC b/w the two, maybe 1/4" AT MOST.

You may want to consult a stock fitter, I have a suspicion that a faulty gun mount is causing issues here.
 
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Lee Barnett said:
I have a 1970's 1100 Trap with monte carlo stock. I need more drop at comb. I found a field stock which is close, but has too much drop at heel. Does anyone know what the drops are for the straight trap stock?

Still looking for a straight trap stock to try.
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One remedy is to have it made into an adjustable comb by one of the pro's.
 
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Lee Barnett said:
I have a 1970's 1100 Trap with monte carlo stock. I need more drop at comb. I found a field stock which is close, but has too much drop at heel. Does anyone know what the drops are for the straight trap stock?

Still looking for a straight trap stock to try.
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Just try some cardboard shims (shell box tops) between stock and receiver and see if you can obtain what you desire. If so, then you can have a competent Smith cut your stock at that angle.

There is way more adjustment potential in an 870 or 1100 stock that many realize. Berettas and the shim system wasn't around back in the day. We had to improvise.
 
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I would like to put a very high rib on an 1100 receiver and barrel. Guys in my club have made add on higher combs with wood and bondo to make the stock high enough. But those are not adjustable. I have two questions: First any ideas how I can have a high, adjustable comb stock? Second questions--place to have the rib done? Simmons used to be the place of choice? Thanks
 
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elmole said:
I would like to put a very high rib on an 1100 receiver and barrel. Guys in my club have made add on higher combs with wood and bondo to make the stock high enough. But those are not adjustable. I have two questions: First any ideas how I can have a high, adjustable comb stock? Second questions--place to have the rib done? Simmons used to be the place of choice? Thanks
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A few years ago I was on a mission to make up two high rib/high poi 1100's, for my wife and I. They were going to be our back up guns, made to shoot as close to our break open guns as I could get. I have always been a 1100 fan, they are reliable , economical to purchase., easy to find parts, ect......in my opinion. Plus they both needed to be release triggers and that was another plus for the price range. I started with two nice field guns. I put more time and money in to one than the other. They shoot very similar despite the cost. I am very pleased with them. My wife, does not care for hers as she is used to the trigger in her Ljutic. After going down that road here are some thoughts .
Stock
Have an adjustable comb put in your current stock, make it fit the rib height.
Or
Purchase a Jack West/Bill Davis stock has an adjustable comb. It costs about the same as adding a comb.
I have used these three way to modify the JW/BD stock for a high comb.
1-Purchase a piece of plastic, or wood and make a new comb. Looks the best, lots of work.
2-Make a spacer plate to raise the post plate on the JW/BD stock. Easy and looks ok.
3-longer posts. Easy looks odd.
Barrel
I did the rib two ways also.
Rib is .750" high in rear and .375 high at the muzzle.
First one I had Moneymaker do, had it done about 8 months before they closed. Expensive!! Actually planned on them dowing two, but I wanted to have one done first to see how it shot. Great!
Second one I used the dimensions from the MM Barrel and had an add on rib made. Reasonable, looks....ok. Also shoots great!
Its a very do-able project. Go for it!
 
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elmole said:
I would like to put a very high rib on an 1100 receiver and barrel. Guys in my club have made add on higher combs with wood and bondo to make the stock high enough. But those are not adjustable. I have two questions: First any ideas how I can have a high, adjustable comb stock? Second questions--place to have the rib done? Simmons used to be the place of choice? Thanks
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You can get a unfinished Wenig New American Trap stock dimensions from Wenig New American Style are 1-3/8 x 1-3/8 x 2-1/2 x 14-1/4 with a 1/4" offset comb and a 3/8" toe out (no offset at heel). This style also features a palm swell and 3" grip length from back of trigger guard. I got mine for $125 a few years ago and did the adjustable comb myself. With this setup you can get about a 1 1/2" rib on a field barrel, a little higher on a step rib trap barrel. Your going to need to decide how much pitch you want on the rib (unless you buy an adjustable one), just putting a higher rib on an 1100 will not necessarily make it shoot higher, you will have to change the pitch (height front to back) to have it shoot higher. Keen Sight or Add a Rib can provide a fixed or adjustable rib for your project.
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Lee, other than above mentioned shimming on the top side of stock...............................................
Raise the rib (add-a-rib) or lower the comb (sanding) are some other ways to go from where you are to where you want to be.

Depending on thickness of the cut and the additional drop you need an adjustable comb install might do the trick
 
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A few years ago I was on a mission to make up two high rib/high poi 1100's, for my wife and I. They were going to be our back up guns, made to shoot as close to our break open guns as I could get. I have always been a 1100 fan, they are reliable , economical to purchase., easy to find parts, ect......in my opinion. Plus they both needed to be release triggers and that was another plus for the price range. I started with two nice field guns. I put more time and money in to one than the other. They shoot very similar despite the cost. I am very pleased with them. My wife, does not care for hers as she is used to the trigger in her Ljutic. After going down that road here are some thoughts .
Stock
Have an adjustable comb put in your current stock, make it fit the rib height.
Or
Purchase a Jack West/Bill Davis stock has an adjustable comb. It costs about the same as adding a comb.
I have used these three way to modify the JW/BD stock for a high comb.
1-Purchase a piece of plastic, or wood and make a new comb. Looks the best, lots of work.
2-Make a spacer plate to raise the post plate on the JW/BD stock. Easy and looks ok.
3-longer posts. Easy looks odd.
Barrel
I did the rib two ways also.
Rib is .750" high in rear and .375 high at the muzzle.
First one I had Moneymaker do, had it done about 8 months before they closed. Expensive!! Actually planned on them dowing two, but I wanted to have one done first to see how it shot. Great!
Second one I used the dimensions from the MM Barrel and had an add on rib made. Reasonable, looks....ok. Also shoots great!
Its a very do-able project. Go for it!
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