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There was never a "West Point entrance test" in a Basic Training company. There is only a battery of aptitude tests. You didn't turn down West Point or even guarantee OCS placement. However, you did turn down the third year of active duty, which was the right thing to do. The test you took included the OCT score, (Officer Candidate Test score). The OCT is the average of the Math and the Verbal subtests, maximum score 160 on the average, maximum score in each of the two tests. Scores in the other tests mean nothing. If you had accepted the "West Point Appointment", all you would have been guaranteed would have been the third year. You made the right decision because the common result of accepting what you thought was a West Point appointment was, and still is, another year in a combat zone.
Eightbore, don't know whether you are right or wrong, but it isn't quite the way I remembered it.

I and two other guys must have done well on some tests, as they called us in to talk to us...........one at a time. The other two were offered a shot at OCS, but I was offered a shot at OCS and/or West Point.

Now I was RA (3 year enlistee) And I really didn't care for the Army. They told me that if I went to West Point, I would do 4 years in school and another 3 years active duty once I was done with my schooling.

Hmmmm, I could get out in less than 3 years, or I could do a fresh 7 years.............Didn't take me long to figure that out.

I said "No Thanks" and never looked back.

Well, that's not entirely right, I've always wondered if I should have tried for West Point, but then when your young and dumb, a person doesn't always make the right decisions.

Hauxfan!
 
My old company XO who was a West Point grad once told me the Army often took recruits for West Point from the ranks when class sizes were low. He also said a lot of the guys who got in the Point with good grades and a letter from their congressman were complete dill weeds who washed out in the first year and had to be replaced, when I described the test I took in basic he smiled and said he remembered taking it too. He also told me that in times of war if the Army needs Special Forces they take them from the Artillery units not Infantry (he never said why), sounds strange to me. According to him the Army can dam well do what it wants when they want, especially during a war.
 
Yup, they can promise you anything and do anything with you that they choose to do, after they make the promises. It's amazing that these fellows really think they were in line to get what they were promised. As for the Major, he should enlighten us with more details.
 
O.K. , I've stated what happened to me personally , if you want to believe it do so, if you don't then don't. But this is turning into a pissing contest that I don't care to join, so do what you want but I'm done with this subject, the horse is dead so stop beating it.
 
No E-6 administering an aptitude test to a group of basic trainees can offer anything like a binding West Point appointment to anyone. End of story. I have been there, done that. Been there, done that, in your case would assume that you or your "old XO" actually went to West Point on such an appointment. I doubt both possibilities.
 
Great thread. A little old, but it's still interesting. Gable, I believe, was in his early 40's when he volunteered. When I was a young trap boy in CT , Cliff Baldwin would tell me stories about Gable's Parker that Remington built him. Great guy to shoot with, I would imagine.
Bob
 
For some reason the content in the link you provided is not allowed????
Drew,

I've been trying to work out what punt gunning at Cowbit in the first link you provided has to do with Clark Gable. Cowbit is a little village near me. I'd occasionally drink at its only pub until it burned down :15:. Cowbit is an odd name.........the locals pronounce it "Cub it".

Jim
 
That story about how Roy Rogers aquired Clark Gables Model 12 is exactly what Roy told me.

Years ago, at the Apple Valley gun club I met Roy Rogers for the first time. He came driving up in a Chevy van and wearing a baseball cap, he was a very friendly man.

We were shooting pot shoots that day and he was waiting for his son Dusty to show up so they could shoot the buddy shoots together.

While we were talking he told me about the day Gable was pissed off about his shooting, and blamed the gun. He bought the gun and shot it the remainder of his trap shooting days.

Anyway he showed me the gun and let me hold it. On the bottom of the stock it still had a name plate with Clark Gables name on it. He asked me if I wanted to shoot it, and of course I did take a few shots. I then returned the favor, by letting him handle and shoot my Perazzi. He didn't like my release trigger as it was to foreign to him.

I've met him a few more times after that. Once he pulled into the gun club riding a Harley !! A great guy !!

Tom
Roy probably didn’t have release triggers on his Colt 45’s.
 
That story about how Roy Rogers aquired Clark Gables Model 12 is exactly what Roy told me.

Years ago, at the Apple Valley gun club I met Roy Rogers for the first time. He came driving up in a Chevy van and wearing a baseball cap, he was a very friendly man.

We were shooting pot shoots that day and he was waiting for his son Dusty to show up so they could shoot the buddy shoots together.

While we were talking he told me about the day Gable was pissed off about his shooting, and blamed the gun. He bought the gun and shot it the remainder of his trap shooting days.

Anyway he showed me the gun and let me hold it. On the bottom of the stock it still had a name plate with Clark Gables name on it. He asked me if I wanted to shoot it, and of course I did take a few shots. I then returned the favor, by letting him handle and shoot my Perazzi. He didn't like my release trigger as it was to foreign to him.

I've met him a few more times after that. Once he pulled into the gun club riding a Harley !! A great guy !!

Tom
As a small kid Roy Rogers was my hero. I had toys with him and Dale on their horses, trigger and buttercup I believe. Also had a set of toy pistols and holster like his. I believe the toys are still at my mom's house. Very cool story Tom.
 
I remember an article many years ago Clark Gable shooting ducks with a Parker 20 ga that had 32" barrels. Drew not many small gauge Parkers with 32" tubes. Did Robert Stack buy Clark Gamble gun collection ?
 
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Gable's Parkers included a 28g BHE 32" barrel with BTFE,
a 32" BHE 20g,
a 20g Skeet configured DHE given him by Joan Bennett,
a 20g CHE 2 barrel set,
and a VR A-1 Special purchased at the New York Sportsman's Show, after the NYC premier of Gone With the Wind Dec. 19, 1939. He later gave the A-1 to Gary Cooper (it's leaning against the car),

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I don't know where his guns ended up, but one of his Parkers is in the Clark Gable Museum in Cadiz, Ohio.
 
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