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I have stripped screw hole in my AL391 buttstock. Can I replace the wood screws with threaded brass inserts and machine screws or will that setup wiggle loose too easily? Why didn't the manufacturer use inserts?
 
Brass wood "serts" as I have heard them called work great! I had the same issue on my 391 and installed a pair. Now uses machine screws as you said.

The reason the manufacturer doesn't do it is simple...it costs more!
 
Yes, the inserts installed with an allen wrench, I believe, are a part of a kit; the CSP Pad Popper available from Midway. The inserts are steel, not brass. Brass would strip too easily. They are easy to install; follow the directions supplied. The main thing you have to watch is that you have to drill the holes to install the inserts exactly in the right place in the stock. Otherwise, your pad won't line up exactly with your butt stock. You think, oh, well, the drilled holes will be in the same place as the wood screws went; well that is correct, but you gotta be sure your drill won't drift a bit while you're drilling. That is what can mess you up on your alignment.
 
I used to use the steel ones but went to the brass when I ran into some of the steel bolts rusting into the steel inserts and became impossible to remove. I now use the brass, but install them upside down. If I have to remove them I use an easyout and replace it. They're a lot cheaper. I buy them 1000 at a time and use them, not only for recoil pads but also for pad adjusters and recoil reduction devices. With them I use 10-24 stainless steel phillips flat head bolts.

Ed Yanchok
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What duck said

AS LONG AS you use a release agent! A paste wax for cars has done really well all my life!
 
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Thanks for all the input guys. I think I am going with the epoxy solution because I can't find a steel insert at my hardware store and I don't have a drill press to get the insert in straight. I can always drill it out later and install inserts if the epoxy doesn't work out.

epoxyworks.com says to use pam spray on the screw,

"Pam® Cooking Spray is a quick and convenient adhesion preventer. Simply place the fastener on a paper towel and spray the threads, butter the threads with a bit of thickened epoxy so air isn’t trapped, push the fastener into the oversized, partially filled hole and let the epoxy cure. Back it out after the epoxy hardens and now you’ve cast threads in the epoxy."

What do you guys think of that?
 
Thanks for all the input guys. I think I am going with the epoxy solution because I can't find a steel insert at my hardware store and I don't have a drill press to get the insert in straight. I can always drill it out later and install inserts if the epoxy doesn't work out.

epoxyworks.com says to use pam spray on the screw,

"Pam® Cooking Spray is a quick and convenient adhesion preventer. Simply place the fastener on a paper towel and spray the threads, butter the threads with a bit of thickened epoxy so air isn’t trapped, push the fastener into the oversized, partially filled hole and let the epoxy cure. Back it out after the epoxy hardens and now you’ve cast threads in the epoxy."

What do you guys think of that?
GUN NUT II ADJUSTABLE STOCK ANCHOR' | Brownells
 
I've used the match/wood stick to fill the hole on a few stocks, easy fix.
Pad on the stock is nothing we remove and reinstall every month or every year, don't worry too much about how durable the hole is.
 
Drill out the holes and use epoxy with the screws inserted through the pad into the holes, use release agent on the bottom of the pad and screws,this allows for perfect fit of the pad and it can be removed if needed
 
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