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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: Har3rdus
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 01:24 AM ET
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I was flipping through the channels and came across the Rachel Maddow show. I realize that she is a flaming liberal. I often watch what I consider the opposition and hope to catch them in a mistake. I watch media shows from both sides of the aisle and listen intently because I believe that some where in the middle of all that rhetoric is the "TRUTH", and it is my job as an informed citizen and voter to educate myself and hopeful scratch out the "TRUTH". A segment of the Rachel Maddow show dealt with Mitt Romney and his tax returns. She put up photo copies showing segments of his tax returns where he purposefully took every tax deduction he could possibily take and not get arrested for tax problems. The tax deduction that turned my stomach was a 77,000 dollar tax deduction for his wife's horse that is competing in the Olympics. Is this true? Is this the kind of man that we want to lead our country? Maybe I can take a $3000 deduction for my two lab retrievers because they bark at the Fed Ex delivery person. Mitt Romney, if you or your staff is reading this, show me (US) your tax returns. True Blue and Diamond Hard, Harry Pennsylvania

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From: Har3rdus
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I want to thank the Mitt Romney wanna bees and Ralph Lauren for those great looking USA Olympic uniforms MADE IN CHINA.

If Mitt would have paid his taxes like most people, the USA Olympic uniforms could have been made in the USA by Americans.

True Blue and Diamond Hard, Harry Pennsylvania

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: Ponytail in WI
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 04:09 AM ET
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Harry, are you as feverious about asking President Obama for his college transcripts or the fact he applied for financial aid, as a foreign student? You can't have it both ways chap!

Rick

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: Don Steele
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 05:16 AM ET
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Lost me as soon as I read that every deduction was LEGAL, you know NOT A VIOLATION OF LAW. I'll take a man who follows the law everytime over one who ADMITS he's a dope smoking-Coke-snorter, and REFUSES to show records from HIS past to clarify if he's ever done ANYTHING legal...since returning to America from Indonesia.

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: halfmile
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 07:01 AM ET
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WTF did Romney have to do with the uniforms?

Get a grip, man.

HM

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: Model Number 12
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 07:36 AM ET
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Harry, one person's tax loophole is another person's legitimate tax deduction. It is legal to reduce one's taxes through allowable deductions. It is illegal to evade the payment of those taxes.

If you don't like certain deductions and feel that they should not be allowed, then work to change the tax code. Be mindful that you may loose one of your deductions because somebody else may not believe that it's legitimate.

A few questions: Why should I be more worried about what Mitt Romney does with his own money then with what Obama is doing with mine?

Also, why has Obama spent so much effort to keep his college records from the public?

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: Fraz
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 07:55 AM ET
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Harry there you go again, You're going to very lonely in that voting booth this time. and make sure before you vote you give half of everything you got to your neighbor. Fraz

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: Bisi
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"A segment of the Rachel Maddow show dealt with Mitt Romney and his tax returns. She put up photo copies showing segments of his tax returns..

How did she get copies of his tax returns? Why do you need him to show his tax returns if the "Madcow" already has them?

"She put up photo copies showing segments of his tax returns where he purposefully took every tax deduction he could possibily take and not get arrested for tax problems."

If he didn't get arrested then I guess he didn't do anything illegal. That is like being mad at somebody for traveling 70 mph on an interstate where the speed limit is 70. He purposefully drove as fast as he could without getting arrested. Miserable Sob.

Bill Clinton used to take a deduction for donating his used underwear to charity.

There are people on this website who have took deductions for shotguns, shells, traveling etc. I bet that turns a lot of non shooters stomachs too.

Again how did the "Madcow" get his tax returns, and if she has them why is she demanding, that he release them?

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: halfmile
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 08:16 AM ET
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It's great. Romney's tax returns are already public.

End of problem.

HM

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: birdogs
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Bill Clinton took the most outrageos deductions. He deducted the "value" of a gift of his USED UNDERWEAR to charity, valuing them at 25 cents!

That's a Democrat for you.

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: ImpalaBob
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If a rich person spends his money in the USA on US built items .... I have no problem. It's really not how much money you make ... It's what you spend it on that matters. Is anyone's tax return really my business!

Which is better? The millionaire that builds a new mansion in his US hometown using US labor, US material, purchasing from local stores .... or the guy who builds a winterhouse in Europe?

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: bluedevil
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 08:34 AM ET
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If you are dumb enough to believe Romney or Clinton or Obama does their own taxes you are too dumb to vote. They pay large sums of money to have someone who is a tax expert prepare it. Grow up! I'm nowhere near a billionaire but have enough to have a pro do it, not one dime more than legal to this bloated, corrupt, incompetent government mess.

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: R.Kipling
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First off, the "middle" between two lies, is still a lie - not the "TRUTH". Political rhetoric is seldom, if ever, that simplistic. CNN hasn't willingly told the 'truth' in 20 years.

Next, if that horse was kept and trained to compete in the Olympics, how it it's care and training any different than the housing and training expenses of our Olympic shooters, runners, skiers, swimmers, etc.? All Olympic expenditures and donations are tax deductible.

I'm more concerned about the 'special tax bracket' that the Pols, especially Ali-bama is getting for the profits from his two ghost-written books (pure fiction). Or, Hillary's table-levelers, for than matter.

Last, bluedevil has it right.

Kip

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: oldgahchamp
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 08:55 AM ET
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Harry, what do you have to say about Romney donating 4 milion to charity and Biden donating 3 hundred. Lets see your friend obama's birth certificate and all his other hidden records.

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: bigdogtx
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ImpalaBob,,,,,why is it anyone else's business where someone spends their money,,,,,,did they not EARN it themselves and if so,,,,,,Is this no longer America where we have a few freedoms left???? And is it YOU that determines where and on what a person spends there money?????

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: Rick Barker
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 10:16 AM ET
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Is this Mrs. Keet under a new moniker????

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: Setterman
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 10:27 AM ET
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Another reason for the flat tax.

BTW...What makes the "middle class" the middle class. Anyone making under $250,000?

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: MX2G
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Toolmaker, Wrong words to use on TS.com. Too late to erase them.

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: Stl Flyn
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 11:15 AM ET
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Wow Jackson, surprised you ventured to this section. Kind of surprised at your response, as I would hope this is not the first post you have seen of this magnitude. This is pretty much the norm down here. Jon

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: Stl Flyn
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 11:18 AM ET
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At least he could show us some fake tax returns, for the time in question. Or even computer altered, generated tax returns from yesterday. LOL

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: Rick Barker
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 11:44 AM ET
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I don't understand the need for anyone to release their tax records prior to winning an election.

If anything we need to see the tax forms of every politician while they are in office.

The White House has no justification calling for Romney's tax records, when they have hidden so many things during the last four years.

So much for transparency.

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: Brian in Oregon
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 01:22 PM ET
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You're upset because Romney lawfully deducted expenses for his wife's horse for Olympic competition?

Dude, get a grip. Your beef is not with Romney, it's with the IRS tax code, and with congress who approved it.

I'm not a Romney fan, but it is bull crap to smear him with this.

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: halfmile
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 02:16 PM ET
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When you use a term like "card carrying NRA member" this is most likely a non shooter.

enough already.

HM

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: Brian in Oregon
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Also notice he takes Romney to task yet no mention of all the sealed Obama records.

His bias is showing.

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: TinMan88
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I don't understand the position of defending ones arguement with the wrongdoing of the other.?? ie. Romney can take 100 million from Sheldon Adelson and its OK -because O'Bozo comes from Kendonesia.

What is that!!!

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: 635 G
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Obumma's records are sealed because he got a leg up being a foreign student.

I honestly believe--he is the Manchurian president.

Phil Berkowitz

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: buster45
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 02:42 PM ET
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Only a fool would pay more taxes than they owe. You can't tell me most of us don't take every allowable tax deduction we can. Also it might be note worthy that Romney Donated 19% of his income to various charities. Would you like to compare this with what our genarous President has donated, with our money, and how much of his own money was donated.Our more genrous Vice Pres donated a rip roaring $300.00 of his own money.How many of our dollars have these to upstanding men given away to the undeserving and are constantly trying take away from our men and women in uniform.

Good gosh use your head.

Buster

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: TinMan88
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And about Romney's ethical treatment of horses...

Ann Romney's High Horse Super Hit had Butorphanol, Delomidine, Romifidine, & Xylatine in its system Ann Romney's High Horse

Super Hit had Butorphanol, Delomidine, Romifidine, and Xylatine in its system at the time of his sale, according to court documents. Testified an expert: “In my 38 years of practice, I have never come across a drug screen such as this where the horse has been administered so many different medications at the same time.”

MORE:

Romney and her trainers sold the horse, Super Hit, in 2008 for $125,000. And Super Hit had what a prominent veterinarian described as a staggering quantity of drugs in its system at the time of its examination before being sold, according to a toxicology report that's part of the lawsuit over the horse's condition.

According to a toxicology report provided to the horse's vet and testimony from a veterinarian, Dr. Steven Soule, included in the lawsuit, Super Hit had three sedative pain killers and one narcotic pain killer in her system when the horse was examined to check her condition pre-sale. The drugs were Butorphanol, Delomidine, Romifidine, and Xylatine.

Soule, who has been the United States Equestrian Team veterinarian since 1978, writes, “In my 38 years of practice, I have never come across a drug screen such as this where the horse has been administered so many different medications at the same time.” The horse had a defect in its foot, and Norris's lawyers alleged that the Ebelings had drugged the horse in order to hide its condition.

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: buster45
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And what has this to do with tax returns. Again do you think the Romny,s had

hands on relationship with the training or sale of these horses. For some reason I doubt this.

Buster

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: John Galt
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 03:34 PM ET
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Dumb thread you started here Harry Keet.

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: MX2G
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 04:39 PM ET
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i check on you guys to help keep site free of vulgarity.

eh?

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: Brian in Oregon
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Drug tests can return trace amounts. No mention what the amounts were. Could be medications that did not improve the condition so others were tried. Without any scientific analysis data to back up the assertion this looks more like another smear campaign.

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: Brian in Oregon
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And what's with the liberal trolls that show up right before an election? Looks like another troll or one of the banned trolls weaseling back.

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: TinMan88
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Soule, who has been the United States Equestrian Team veterinarian since 1978, writes, “In my 38 years of practice, I have never come across a drug screen such as this where the horse has been administered so many different medications at the same time.”

Sounds inconsequential to me. Yah..

Myself, I think it reflects on character (of the owner). Would you let a prize horse just go to seed with the thistles? What candidate Romney has in store for us After he's elected should be a known BEFORE he is elected. And thanks for the bump, Brian.

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: TinMan88
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 06:18 PM ET
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buster45, if he didn't have anything to do with the horses, why should it BE a tax deduction? The bigger question is about the tax HAVEN.

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: John Galt
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 07:08 PM ET
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Ever heard of a JOINT tax return goober? Now the liberals are worried about the Romney's horses- what's next, inspecting their horse apples?

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: Brian in Oregon
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Let's see the data showing parts per million of the various drugs.

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: Har3rdus
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 08:12 PM ET
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Gentlemen, It was my intent to start a genuine discussion on one of the most important elections of our time, and I get smeared. Do you people reload shotgun shells with the same brain that you vote with? I can not believe some of you people can safely handle a shotgun. There is a guy named Phil who thinks that the weather is more important than the election. He keeps waiting for the weatherman to show up in this discussion. Somehow, I got linked to a "Keet" whoever or whatever that is. I am starting to think that a "Keet" is a game that you shoot on the sKEET range. I am a 63 year old white male who happens to drive a school bus for a living. I am retired from my previous job with a pension and continue to work because that is what GOOD Americans do. To be a school bus driver, I am subjected to random drug tests and drug free. I make 14,000 dollars a year before taxes and no benefits and no union. This year the PA state legislature tried to pass a bill :HB 128 that would deny me from collecting unemployment over the summer months when school is not in session. The bill contained a provision that I still contribute to the unemployment fund, but I just can not collect it when my time came. The bill was defeated through the efforts of an informed people contacting their state representative and informing them that school bus drivers are real people. Wife lost her part time here in PA because our Republican Governor does not think Retarded people are real people and do not deserve special housing. Her job was to make sure these special people live in a safe public sector housing (Group homes). Our Governor was the Attorney General for the state when Jerry Sandusky was molesting young boys in the locker room at Penn State but failed to act until the investigation was completed. Investigation came to a close after he was elected Governor. I am worried about my pension. The mood in the state leans against people with pensions since pensions drain Big Business and we, on pensions, really do not deserve the pension that we contributed to and managed by someone else, and I have to live with the result. When Romney picked Paul Ryan of Wis for a running mate, that decision just about did it for me. As a baby boomer, and retired, and any one about to retire which is a large chunk of the population, Paul Ryan is not the person to be Vice President. Ryan's views on changing Medicare and entitlements are well documented. It is not about guns or taxes or national debt or birth certificates any more, it has become about money; my money, my pension, social security and Medicare, that I need to live on, and I planned for in my later years. One of these days I will not be able to get my sorry butt out of bed to go to work. I hope that God takes me before that day comes. I hope that all that are reading this will get a small slice of the American dream in the end. Before I go, and Phil heaves a sign of relief and checks out the weather report, I ask that you inform yourself, and remember that people, maybe your friends, neighbors, and co-workers might be affected. Check your sources. Some will win, and some will lose, but as long as America wins, we will be alright. Vote in November, True Blue and Diamond Hard, Harry In Pennsylvania

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: buster45
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In other words you don't want anyone messing with your entitlement, why should you draw unemployment in the summer? You knew that this was part time employment when you took the job. You sir are part of the problem with this country.

As for the Romney's you don't have to feed or clean stalls your self to make the deduction,many people are involved in ventures that they never see or touch but are stll deductable.

One of our problems to many people expect a pay day for doing nothing. Then complain when someone has worked and been sucessful takes a legal deduction. Go figure.

Buster

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: buster45
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 08:47 PM ET
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In the end the perplexed will stay perplexed.

Good evening

Buster

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: ImpalaBob
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 09:30 PM ET
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Bigdogtx .... Your right .... it is not my business where anybody spends their money. No debate there!!

I would rather vote for someone who I feel represents the same values I have.

I recently read .... "I am a White, Conservative, Tax-Paying, American Veteran, Gun Owning Biker. That's me!" ..... and THAT is also ME!

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: Stl Flyn
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 09:47 PM ET
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"Gentlemen, It was my intent to start a genuine discussion". This was your first mistake!

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: Lawman214
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 09:54 PM ET
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Coupla points:

1) Harry...You say we need to get educated? Well, you sir could stand to do a little readin' up before you start throwing rocks. If you had read...maybe I should phrase that "understood"...Ryan's plan, you would know his proposed changes to Medicare would not affect YOU.

2) Ryan's plan is just that...a plan. Doesn't mean it is going to be implemented, and in fact most likely would not in its present form. Get with it...Ryan is on line to be the VEEP. Romney is the man.

3) All this stuff about Romney's taxes, Romney's horses, Romney killing a guys wife, etc are simply DISTRACTIONS. That is exactly what the Dems want...distractions. Smoke and mirrors. Cut and run. Do anything, say anything to avoid talking about the real issues. The reason? They can't hold a discussion about the real issues affecting ALL Americans or THEY LOSE. Obama can't run on his record...period, and he knows it. So, let's throw up a bunch of horsefeathers and keep people talking about anything but what matters.

4) As for Romney's taxes...I couldn't care less. It has already been pointed out, correctly, that we should care more about what Obama is doing with our money, and that of our kids and grandkids, than what Romney is doing with his. There is a U.S. Supreme Court case from 1934, that is still cited to this day, that says a citizen has no obligation to pay one cent more in taxes than he is legally liable to pay. It further says it is the DUTY of each U.S. citizen to pay the absolute minimum they legally owe in taxes. That is the citizen's check on a potentially overbearing government. So, if Romney elects to pay the absolute minimum he legally owes in taxes, he is doing his civic duty!

Harry, when was the last time you called your local IRS office and said, "Listen, I just don't feel right with my tax bill. How 'bout I send y'all an extra $10,000 this year?" Sound dumb? Well, maybe you get it now.

Lawman out.

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: John Galt
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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 - 09:57 PM ET
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Harry, that was quite a sob story, expecially the part about you scamming unemployment.

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: Stl Flyn
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Trust me on this Harry, it is not worth your time or frustration, unless you consider this entertainment.

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How can a non-existent, irrelevant, fictional character, do that?

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Quote: "3) All this stuff about Romney's taxes, Romney's horses, Romney killing a guys wife, etc are simply DISTRACTIONS. That is exactly what the Dems want...distractions. Smoke and mirrors. Cut and run. Do anything, say anything to avoid talking about the real issues. The reason? They can't hold a discussion about the real issues affecting ALL Americans or THEY LOSE. Obama can't run on his record...period, and he knows it. So, let's throw up a bunch of horsefeathers and keep people talking about anything but what matters. "

Yup. Take a look at the Maddow thread I posted. She can't defend Obama's $700 billion Medicare cut, so she deflects by pointing out Ryan also wants this cut, but won't address Romney wanting it restored. Don't answer the original question - distract and deflect.

Quote: "4) As for Romney's taxes...I couldn't care less. It has already been pointed out, correctly, that we should care more about what Obama is doing with our money, and that of our kids and grandkids, than what Romney is doing with his. There is a U.S. Supreme Court case from 1934, that is still cited to this day, that says a citizen has no obligation to pay one cent more in taxes than he is legally liable to pay. It further says it is the DUTY of each U.S. citizen to pay the absolute minimum they legally owe in taxes. That is the citizen's check on a potentially overbearing government. So, if Romney elects to pay the absolute minimum he legally owes in taxes, he is doing his civic duty!"

Liberals have some gall taking Romney to task over this when Obama has refused to unseal or make public almost all of his records. If it's a non-issue for the Dems for Obama, then it should be a non-issue for Romney as well.

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
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The truth about all this claptrap during the campaigns is that this election season is going to get interesting. Those leaning hard to the left are never going to vote for Romney/Ryan. Those on the right are not going to vote for Obama/Biden. It is those voters vascillating in the middle that are in play. I firmly believe that Mitt Romney may be a lot of things, but he is not stupid. The man would not be running for the highest office if he had real skeletons rattling around in his closet. He, and his campaign advisors, also had to know what the Dems response would be to his pick of Paul Ryan. Kind of makes you wonder what they might have planned, huh? As for the Libs, if they can't find real substance with which to attack Romney, they'll just make something up. It has become apparent, early on, that their main tactic is to try and keep the Romney camp on the defensive. Let's see what happens when the other side gets the ball. For starters, I am absolutely salivating at the thought of watching Paul Ryan debate Joe Biden.

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
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Super Hit.

Who or what’s that?

Oh… just another dressage horse the Romney’s once owned – and tried to sell.

Selling horses is not illegal, immoral, or unethical.

However, to attempt to sell a horse that is so doped up in an effort to masquerade, conceal or hide a defective, sick, injured or wounded condition… well, now, that’s a horse of a different color.

Ann Romney was named as a defendant in such a case.

Here’s what Dr. Stephen Soule, DVM – an expert in equine podiatry – said of the horse Mrs. Romney was trying to sell:

“In my 38 years of practice, I have never come across a drug screen such as this where the horse has been administered so many different medications at the same time.”

This was not some long-ago issue, for the complaint was filed February 10, 2010 in California Superior Court, Ventura County, is case number 56-2010-00372707-CU-FR-SIM, and was set for trial September 12, 2011.

Here’s the nut of the case:

In 2010, a San Diego woman – Catherine Norris – sued Mrs. Romney, dressage trainer Jan Ebeling and his wife Amy for fraud, claiming that the severity of a foot defect in Super Hit, a dressage horse she purchased from Mrs. Romney for $125,000, was concealed.

The expert equine veterinarian, Dr. Stephen Soule, stated in the record that, “In my professional opinion, based on 38 years of experience in equine veterinary medicine and in conducting nearly 2000 pre-purchase examinations during this time, the HA-VETALOG injections to the left front coffin joint coupled with Super Hit’s inconsistent show record, decline in test scores, consistency in the remarks of different show judges on score sheets that Super Hit was “tense,” had “tension” and “tight” and “stiff,” and the fact that he was not shown for nearly 2½ years prior to the sale in February 2008, Super Hit was more likely than not chronically lame prior to Catherine Norris’ purchase in February 2008.”

A pre-purchase drug screen/toxicology study performed February 13, 2008 by Center for Tox Services, Inc. – an Arizona lab – on 6 blood collection tubes drawn from the horse Super Hit found Butorphanol (a synthetic opioid pain killer), Detomadine (a a2-adrenergic agonist, used as a sedative in horses), romifidine (another sedative mainly used on large animals such as horses), and xylazine (a medication used in horses for sedation, anesthesia, muscle relaxation, and pain relief) in the horse’s system.

Also named in the suit was Dr. Doug Herthen, DVM, the veterinarian who treated Super Hit, and who purposely failed to disclose the nature of his relationship with Ann Romney and Super Hit to the purchaser, Mrs. Norris. In his testimony, Dr. Soule wrote that, “The professional ethics standard in veterinary medicine is to disclose any implied, apparent, or actual conflicts of interest before agreeing to conduct the pre-purchase examination. In other words, there is no such thing as dual representation without disclosure. In my professional opinion, the failure of Doug Herthel to disclose to Catherine Norris his existing and/or prior professional relationship with the defendants Amy and Jan Eberling, prior to the pre-purchase examination, was a breach of his professional duties and ethics.”

For very nearly a decade, Mrs. Romney has held a financial and ownership stake in The Acres, a horse training ranch about 45 miles northwest of Los Angeles, which is also owned by Jan & Amy Eberling. Mr. Eberling is a dressage trainer from Germany. With the Romneys, the Eberlings own Rob Rom Enterprises LLC, a foreign corporation registered in Delaware, which buys and trains dressage horses.

Its about CHARACTER. I can't get the tox report to c&p but its not about the horse OK -its about candidate Romney. Rev Wright was a measure of what was in store from candidate O'Turdo. Its about background. Hiding wealth in offshore bank shelters should be off the table, WHY? Brian sez.. "Liberals have some gall taking Romney to task over this when Obama has refused to unseal or make public almost all of his records. If it's a non-issue for the Dems for Obama, then it should be a non-issue for Romney as well."

Well it IS the issue and both men should stand up.

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: Brian in Oregon
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"Both men should stand up."

OK.... waiting for Obama to make the first move. He has sealed more records for a longer time...

tick....tick....tick....tick...tick....

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
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Tin,,,,,please post account numbers and countries where Mitt has offshore accounts.......

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
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I love people who put up a post here and then sit back and watch the action, which seems to be what the original poster has done, since there are no follow-ups.

The IRS has a team of agents who watch tax returns from high income /net worth companies and individuals. When I dealt with large companies, they actually set aside office space for the IRS agents, so they could do their ANNUAL AUDIT. IF Mitt Romney had done anything outside the IRS regs, he'd have been audited at the drop of a hat. The IRS routinely flags returns of high income earners, exactly because they have high incomes and are paying high taxes and are using every legal avenue to pay only what they legally are obligated to pay. Surprise - just like GE and every other major corporation in the USA.

IF Rachel Madow has copies of ANY US citizen's tax return, she is complicit in tax fraud and should be investigated and, perhaps, charged with a felony. She either (1) got them by posing as Mitt Romney or (2) was given copies by someone else. Either way, she is possibly guilty of a felony.

As someone said about Harry Reid, "Put up or shut up."

Gene Batchelar Wheaton, IL

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Gentlemen, Gentlemen, please be kind to me. I am just an American trying to gather information to make an intelligent decision in November. I appreciate the people who took the time to research the topic and report sincerely. For the remaining few who chose scarcasm and venon, better days are ahead. If any one out there is as old as me you might remember the words of JFK, "Ask not what your country can do for you but ask what can you do for your country". Then in 1962, the Cuban Missile Crisis where I stood in the confessional line for hours trying to repent for past sins because the Russians were at any moment going fry my little butt in a Mushroom cloud. In the words of my elders, they would have said, "America, Love it or leave it" and some of us did. I would have responded with "UP YOURS". Our beloved President Richard M. Nixon (Republican) came on TV and said, "I am not a Crook". VP Spiro T. Agnew from Maryland was just a blimp on the scene and resigned in disgrace. August, 1974, Richard M. Nixon resigns as President of the US. Bill Clinton said I did not have sex with that woman, but he did. This started out as a history lesson and I could go on, but what is the point? The point is most of us do not take the time to do the research and get opposing view points and even less of us vote in any given election. What percentage of eligible voters actually vote? Is it ten, twenty, 30 or 40 or 100%? Use the google function and find out. So few of us control so many, and the many that don't, complain about those who do. Do you go to a town meeting and ask the candidates tough questions? Do you read the newspapers beyond the sports section? If it is raining outside, will travel out and cast your vote? Do you question the material that you do read? What is their agenda? What is there position? What will they gain from getting you to their side? I know that I lost most of you by now, and that is NOT OK. If I can turn one Democrat to vote Republican and one Republican to vote Democrat and one crack pot not to waste their vote and write in Mickey Mouse on the ballot, I will feel better about America and her people. Educate yourself with information from both sides because somewhere in the middle is the truth that we can all live with and will have to live with because the people have spoken. What would Rush, Glenn, Ed and Rachael say about that?

True Blue and Diamond Hard, Never let the flag touch the ground, 21 steps: 21 seconds Click

Harry Pennsylvania

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
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BGT, I've got Romneys account numbers at my fingertips and will post them on TS for you- or I lose the debate... OK! ya got me.

BiO I've called him a kenyan since before his selection to be ruler. O'turdo won't move because obviously he could flick boogers into hillary's hair-do live on TV and get away with it.

Gene, Hows that LIBOR scandal goin for ya? Are you HAPPY that Gold-in-the-sacks won't be prosecuted this week?

Rachel Madscow is not a person I have anything to do with. Just being her is a felony.

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Keep drinking the Kool Aid or smoking whatever you smoke guys. It keeps you mellow and ignorant. Just please, don't lecture anyone here.

If you can't make a decision about your November vote NOW, I feel a pang of disbelief and sorrow. The choice could not be clearer.

LIBOR ? Really. Maybe you should ask Mr. Geithner what he thinks.

Gene Batchelar Wheaton, IL

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
From: TinMan88
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Date: Tue, Aug 14, 2012 - 01:36 AM ET
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There's a wellspring of honesty.

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
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I would think those who call themselves,"true" Americans would not fall victim to Obama's class warfare crap, like so many have and those who obey God remember the commandment about coveting your neighbors property.

Some of you should shed this p-n-s envy affliction you are consumed with and concentrate on being adults, setting this country back on a course of greatness.

I would choose to follow a man who did make it himself, instead of one who has been handed much in his life because of his skin color, who has never done anything on his own. His past life is secret and he is unwilling to shed light on subjects that people find questionable, but fans the flames of discontent among ourselves. He drunk with power, out to destroy a country which he has invested nothing into it.

We have watched him stand before the red white and blue flag, without hand over heart yet happily endorses practices and methods of those who prefer the one with the red field, sickle and hammer.

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
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I can't believe anybody would even try to read Harry Keet's incoherent ramblings, especially given the obvious fact that he doesn't have a clue what a paragraph is or how to use one.

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Off topic as it is... Why would "use of paragraph" disqualify one from contributing to discussion?

Rick, Where does genitalia enter into the conversation? I think 'salvage operation' would be applicable instead of "return to greatness".

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The better question would be; What has Galt ever contributed to this site besides low intellect, and useless degrading comments, in his 7 threads and 1793 posts? I don't even believe he trapshoots. Has anyone ever shot a round with John Galt? What is his real name?

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Subject: tax returns of Mitt Romney
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And the beat goes on.....

HM

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People who whine about another persons success and fortunes are the same as those who practice PE.

We have to come to grip what Obama class envy/warfare and division has done to this country and discard it from our lives.

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Class Envy.

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Notice for all liberal whiners:

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