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grnberetcj 07-Jun-12 - 06:18 PM ET
Brian in Oregon 07-Jun-12 - 06:25 PM ET
Don Steele 07-Jun-12 - 07:06 PM ET
Brian in Oregon 07-Jun-12 - 07:53 PM ET
cubancigar2000 07-Jun-12 - 09:06 PM ET
BAD 303 07-Jun-12 - 10:02 PM ET
Brian in Oregon 08-Jun-12 - 04:25 AM ET
Don Steele 08-Jun-12 - 05:09 AM ET
Seitz Shooter 08-Jun-12 - 06:12 AM ET
shootinghero 08-Jun-12 - 08:58 AM ET
BAD 303 08-Jun-12 - 09:12 AM ET
oz 08-Jun-12 - 09:24 AM ET
warren 08-Jun-12 - 09:39 AM ET
kepkey 08-Jun-12 - 10:51 AM ET
Catpower 08-Jun-12 - 11:24 AM ET
Git-ER-Done 08-Jun-12 - 11:38 AM ET
Big Heap 08-Jun-12 - 02:21 PM ET
Brian in Oregon 08-Jun-12 - 11:05 PM ET
slic lee 08-Jun-12 - 11:12 PM ET
WS-1 08-Jun-12 - 11:43 PM ET
Brian in Oregon 09-Jun-12 - 03:03 PM ET
WS-1 09-Jun-12 - 05:00 PM ET
Brian in Oregon 09-Jun-12 - 05:55 PM ET
grunt 09-Jun-12 - 08:01 PM ET
Tron 09-Jun-12 - 08:11 PM ET
shootinghero 09-Jun-12 - 08:20 PM ET
halfmile 09-Jun-12 - 11:03 PM ET
SSeitz007 09-Jun-12 - 11:14 PM ET
Luvs2shoot 10-Jun-12 - 03:35 AM ET
Catpower 10-Jun-12 - 03:21 PM ET
Luvs2shoot 10-Jun-12 - 04:56 PM ET
WS-1 10-Jun-12 - 05:30 PM ET
Barry C. Roach 10-Jun-12 - 06:06 PM ET
John Galt 11-Jun-12 - 03:56 PM ET
Brian in Oregon 12-Jun-12 - 01:02 AM ET
Bangalore 12-Jun-12 - 01:48 AM ET
Brian in Oregon 12-Jun-12 - 02:23 AM ET
Tron 12-Jun-12 - 07:23 AM ET
John Galt 12-Jun-12 - 10:28 AM ET
Luvs2shoot 12-Jun-12 - 10:48 AM ET
wolfram 12-Jun-12 - 11:39 AM ET
grnberetcj 12-Jun-12 - 12:54 PM ET
John Galt 12-Jun-12 - 03:24 PM ET
Luvs2shoot 12-Jun-12 - 04:24 PM ET
slic lee 12-Jun-12 - 06:01 PM ET
Brian in Oregon 12-Jun-12 - 09:21 PM ET
John Galt 12-Jun-12 - 10:45 PM ET
WS-1 13-Jun-12 - 12:10 AM ET
Brian in Oregon 13-Jun-12 - 12:37 AM ET
WS-1 13-Jun-12 - 07:26 PM ET
Brian in Oregon 13-Jun-12 - 10:51 PM ET
WS-1 14-Jun-12 - 12:21 AM ET
Brian in Oregon 14-Jun-12 - 12:36 AM ET
WS-1 14-Jun-12 - 01:03 AM ET
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John Galt 14-Jun-12 - 09:13 AM ET
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Bangalore 14-Jun-12 - 12:25 PM ET
kepkey 14-Jun-12 - 05:59 PM ET
John Galt 14-Jun-12 - 07:08 PM ET
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Subject: If you don
From: grnberetcj
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IF YOU DON'T LIKE MITT, HERE'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER

Columnist Andrew McCarthy gives us what probably is the most important question regarding the upcoming presidential election….

“…..if Mitt wins the nomination, as seems very likely, I will enthusiastically support his candidacy. For my friends who have hesitation on that score, I’d just ask you to keep four things in mind:

1.. Justice Scalia just turned 78

2.. Justice Kennedy will turn 78 later this year

3.. Justice Breyer will be 76 in August

4.. Justice Ginsburg turned 81 about a week ago.

We wish them all well, of course, but the brute fact is that whoever we elect as president in November is almost certainly going to choose at least one and maybe more new members of the Supreme Court — in addition to hundreds of other life-tenured federal judges, all of whom will be making momentous decisions about our lives for decades to come.

If you don’t think it matters whether the guy making those calls is Mitt Romney or Barack Obama, I think you’re smokin’ something funky….”

So for anybody who is thinking of not voting because your favorite didn’t get nominated, or writing in a candidate who can't win... Imagine this:

SUPREME COURT JUSTICE ERIC HOLDER.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Brian in Oregon
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LOL

If this is REALLY important to Republicans, then WHY did they nominate someone who appointed LIBERAL judges to the bench 75% of the time?

Brilliant thinking.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Don Steele
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Date: Thu, Jun 07, 2012 - 07:06 PM ET
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Supreme Court Justice Hillary Clinton...!!!???? On the bench FOR LIFE...!!!!EEEEkkk..!!!

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Brian in Oregon
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Date: Thu, Jun 07, 2012 - 07:53 PM ET
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Maybe Romney will reach across the aisle and nominate her. After all, she's more conservative than he is.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: cubancigar2000
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Date: Thu, Jun 07, 2012 - 09:06 PM ET
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All you people who are bashing Mitt need to come out of the gas. He is our only choice to beat this idiot so get behind him

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: BAD 303
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The ridiculous part about bashing Romney at this point is the alternative. Sounds like a few here think Hussein is the better choice. Pretty ironic when you think about the consequences of NOT voting for Romney.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Brian in Oregon
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Ridiculous? What's ridiculous is that we have a choice of Obama and Obama Lite.

Irony? The irony is that I stated months ago that those who would not tolerate a gun banning, socialised medicine supporting, tax and spend, job killing liberal 'Republican' would wind up being in a position of power out of proportions of their numbers, and the risk was Romney losing.

This voting block was scoffed at as being immaterial, and are still being marginalised, all while demands are made that they vote for Romney.

The chickens have come home to roost. This voting block may well have the final say on whether the GOP wins in 2012. All I can say is I told you it would come to this. Nominating a liberal gun banner has really ticked a lot of conservatives off. If they wanted to vote for a liberal they would have joined the Democratic Party.

Maybe in 2016 Republicans will finally have a clue that, like with GWH Bush, Dole, McCain and now possibly Romney that there is a voting block in the GOP that will not tolerate business as usual.

Does that mean we want to see Obama win? Absolutely not. But the "lesser of two evils" gambit has run its course. It's played out, and liberal supporting Republicans may well watch a slow motion train wreck they caused when they set the switch to Romney.

Who should you be angry with? Not the tea party. Not the pro-gunners. Blame the liberal element that support and voted for Romney. They own this disaster.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Don Steele
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Date: Fri, Jun 08, 2012 - 05:09 AM ET
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As I mentioned in an earlier thread....My IDEAL candidate ain't in the race. There are going to be other candidates on the ballot...who have zero hance of winning. Perhaps you guys who don't like Mitt will be happy voting for one of them. IF one of those other individuals is YOUR IDEAL candidate...vote for him or her, and feel good. I won't. Realistically...I have a choice between Romney and Obama. THAT'S an easy one. Obama cannot be allowed to remain in the White House. I shudder to think what kind of country we have become if a majority of our fellow Americans want to return this total failure to Washington for another 4 years.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Seitz Shooter
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Date: Fri, Jun 08, 2012 - 06:12 AM ET
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A vote against Romney is a vote for socialism.

Adios, Dirk

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: shootinghero
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Haven't people on the board figured it out yet? Brian in Oregon is a strong Obama supporter. He never misses an opportunity to bash Romney he wants people who are on this board to stay home and not vote for Romney. He is not that stupid to think he could convince anyone to vote for Obama.

There is no honor in this man. If you actually believe Obama is better for the country, you should have the integrity to come out and say it.

Obama only needs about 50 electoral votes that he does not already have locked up. He can be beaten, but only if Republicans and Independents understand that the very existence of the nation we love is at stake. Vote for Romney, get your friends to vote for Romney, contribute to Romney and work for Romney. America needs it.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: BAD 303
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Brian you need to get into reality pretty quickly. Conservatives and Republicans now have ONE person to vote for. If you don't vote for Obama-lite as you call him you are voting for Obama. NOT that hard to understand. Your continual bashing of Romney has run it's course and most on here agree he is not the most conservative. But your daily beating of a dead horse has gotten old. Like it or not and we all get the picture loud and clear that you do not like him,he is the guy we have to vote for. NOT that hard to grasp if you just use a little common sense. Your daily ranting about his gun banning will NOT change who is running against Hussein. Romney is now the choice we have. You can act like a child for 5 more months and take your ball and cry all the way home but the fact still remains Romney is the Republican nominee. You now have tow choices Hussein the Muslim Socialist or Romney the gun banning moderate. Hell the part of the country you are from you should be use to gun banning moderates.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: oz
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I would not vote for romney...BUT I sure as hell would not vote for odumbo....

I will vote for romney. any other vote will get the muslim-in-chief back in for the last election in what was the USA.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: warren
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I see that Rand Paul has approved of Romney that should count for a lot with his supporters which I am one of.

warren

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: kepkey
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Good post Curt. Unfortunately I get the impression that most of them here did not get the message or the seriousess of Obama naming 1,2 or more Supreme Court Justices. I hope before election time more of them do get it. Don

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Catpower
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Why don't Y'all give up trying to sway Brian into voting for Romney, it isn't going to happen it appears

Spend your efforts into getting other voters to get out and volunteer and get everybody out to vote for Romney, although he might not be the best for the job, he has been plenty successful at what he's done throughout his life

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Git-ER-Done
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Oregonians are very liberal in their thinking, pony tails and VW van. All the hippies moved there from California back in the transition back to nature. Paint oregon a Yellow for liberal.(not red or blue)

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Big Heap
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If we could vote FOR or AGAINST any candidate we could express our true feelings about the candidate but still allow the other guy to win.

"FOR" would be a vote for him.

"AGAINST" would take a "FOR" vote away.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Brian in Oregon
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shootinghero, quote: "Haven't people on the board figured it out yet? Brian in Oregon is a strong Obama supporter."

Liar

Git-ER-Done, quote: "Oregonians are very liberal in their thinking, pony tails and VW van. All the hippies moved there from California back in the transition back to nature. Paint oregon a Yellow for liberal.(not red or blue)"

If you're referring to Oregon, yes, the liberals do have a lot of power here.

If that's a swipe at me, then you're sadly mistaken. I am not a liberal. I apparently am a lot more conservative than most of you. Because you are supporting a liberal Republican and I am not. I intend to vote for a conservative.

I think Republicans as a whole did not think this through when they got behind someone who has little in common with the very party he is supposed to represent. They backed someone who has turned a lot of conservatives off.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: slic lee
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You moderate liberal conservatives caused this now you expect true conservatives and independents to bail you out. Keep paying!

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: WS-1
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Yah, Ol' Rand Paul and all those Right Wing Tea Baggers would never take up with Romney. Why, he's nothin' but a Massachusetts pinko commie freak.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Brian in Oregon
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Rand Paul HAS to support Romney if he's going to expect to get any support down the road from the RNC.

Sadly, this enables the RINOs.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: WS-1
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It's called REALITY. You might try a small dose.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Brian in Oregon
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Reality was needed in large doses by liberal Republicans who thought their liberal gun banning nominee would automatically get votes from people who are disgusted with him. McCain's loss and the rise of the tea party was reality staring them in the face.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: grunt
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Ill vote for Romney because he isnt a commie.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Tron
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I'm confused. Brian, are you trying to say that you are a Liberal?

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: shootinghero
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A vote for anyone other than Romney is a vote for Obama.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: halfmile
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The political assasination of Herman Cain over a BS harassment claim tells you they play hard ball, dirty pool, whatever it takes in this game.

The other candidates were also done in by the raising of issues not related to ability.

All the hearsay flying around the networks (and yes, this site) gave us Romney. wo hold your nose and vote for him.

Tough.

HM

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: SSeitz007
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If you don't "LIKE" Romney, are you telling me you'd even consider or think about voting for his opponent ?

Gene Batchelar Wheaton, IL

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Luvs2shoot
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Brian, if I may interpret:

I believe what Brian is saying is that he is first and foremost pro-gun. Romney is weak in that area, Obama is weaker in that area. Brian would like to see a better candidate, as would I. Will Brian vote for Romney, probably not, will Brian vote for Obama, extremely unlikely. Brian sounds a little bit like me. That is, we're tired of the soundbites that get idiot voters to vote one way or another because neither side runs a candidate worth a hoot. Obama is for the illegal immigrants and all the handout recipients sucking this country dry, and Romney is for the ultra wealthy. My guess is Brian doesn't fall into either category, nor do I. Once again working middle class america and small business owners will get the shaft regardless of the outcome. What middle class American can be thrilled with that? I say if Brian wants to call a spade a spade, go ahead.

Perhaps Brian's strategy, is to let Obama have one more term so that the RNC figures out it must run a candiate who follows through with the soundbites after the election is over. Whatever the outcome, everyone better get their house in order.

P.S. I don't think Brian is liberal, he has silencer/s and tax stamp/s, and I have never known a liberal to have those.

Just my opinion.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Catpower
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Luvs2shoot, I agree with a lot of what Brian and you say, the thing that worries me is right now we might be at the point of no return, and if Obozo gets 4 more years I think we will surely be at the point of no return

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
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Thats a valid point CP.

I fear lame duck presidents way more than first termers, who keep things in check just a little, to get re-elected. Once they have no re-election to worry about, a lame duck can really run with their personal agenda. To that end, I fear Obama way more than Romney. Romney will most likely want to be re-elected, and keep things in check to some degree. Brian, that would be the best argument I can make for Romney over Obama, even though four more years of Obama should have a majority of voters fed up to no end in this country. Obama has not shown that he will, and Romney will likely not set policy that helps the middle class Americans, who are paying the majority of taxes in this country. Once again, we are voting for the lesser of two evils, or moreso, voting against an incumbent.

John

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: WS-1
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It's an Obama referendum, plain and simple. No self respecting American can, in good conscience, cast a vote for a progressive communist anti-American like Barack Obama. An intellectually honest rationale does not exist to justify a vote for a communist.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
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With respect, Brian, you're wrong on this one. Romney is as big a chamelion as O but he's our chamelion. He'll do what we want him to do or we'll get rid of him and he knows it. We cconservative/tea partiers are in the driver seat, unless we screw something up, and Mitt has to do what we say if he wants to have two terms. "Let not your heart be troubled." As Sean says.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: John Galt
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Only a brain dead liberal would ever say "Romney is for the ultra wealthy". That's just as dumb as saying that Obummer is for the poor.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Brian in Oregon
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Tron, quote: "I'm confused. Brian, are you trying to say that you are a Liberal?"

I am a pro-gun conservative, apparently a lot more so than the liberal Republicans voting for their liberal gun banning nominee, Romney.

SSeitz007, quote: "If you don't "LIKE" Romney, are you telling me you'd even consider or think about voting for his opponent ?"

Did a lot of people suddenly lose IQ points? I'm not voting for Obama. I'm voting third party. I am voting FOR the candidate I believe best represents my values. That isn't Obama nor Romney. If you don't like that, then maybe you should have worked harder to nominate a pro-gun, non-liberal candidate.

Luvs2shoot - Spot on. My line in the sand is the Second Amendment. Cross it and you lose my vote. It's just that simple. I will not compromise on this point.

WS-1, quote: "It's an Obama referendum, plain and simple. No self respecting American can, in good conscience, cast a vote for a progressive communist anti-American like Barack Obama. An intellectually honest rationale does not exist to justify a vote for a communist."

An intellectually honest rationale? Really? REALLY? Please explain the "intellectually honest rationale" in nominating a gun banning, socialised medicine creating, jobs killing, tax and spend, liberal judge appointing, liberal who has very little in common with the party he's supposed to represent. Where is the 'intellectually honest rationale" in having the race come down to Obama and Obama Lite? Where is the "intellectually honest rationale" in voting "the lesser of two evils" instead of voting FOR someone?

Barry C. Roach, qoute: "With respect, Brian, you're wrong on this one. Romney is as big a chamelion as O but he's our chamelion. He'll do what we want him to do or we'll get rid of him and he knows it. We cconservative/tea partiers are in the driver seat, unless we screw something up, and Mitt has to do what we say if he wants to have two terms. "Let not your heart be troubled." As Sean says."

Barry, thanks for a serious reply that doesn't resort to name calling. I beg to differ on your optimism about Romney being a chamelion. That he is a chamelion is obvious as he reinvents himself. However, there is also a saying that a leopard can't change its spots. Some of those not supporting Romney believe that he can, as a Republican president, get liberal legislation passed that the Republicans in congress would never cooperate with Obama on. Whether this will happen or not is speculation, but the point is that there are those who believe it and have rejected Romney based upon that. They do not believe Romney can be "re-educated", because if he wins by a large margin it will be seen by Romney as confirmation that Republicans will back his liberal policies. These concerns apparently never entered the minds of those supporting Romney, and simplistic name calling does not address these concerns. I predict that enough people have been disenfranchised by their fellow Republicans that it's going to be a close race in what should have been a landslide for the GOP.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
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Give it up, guys....some here have shown the incapacity to see the FOREST for the trees....no sense in discussing politics with these people.......after all, it is a free country and they certainly have the right to EXERCISE THE IDIOTIC SELF-DESTRUCTIVE OPTION......

As in the past, they will indirectly contribute to elect he who they despise......

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Brian in Oregon
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Excuse me, but the self-destruct option was already pressed by those who nominated liberal Romney.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
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Yeah, I know Brian...I was just trying to start trouble.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: John Galt
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I have trouble understanding why so many care so much about who BiO votes for. Personally, I don't care and, in fact, his state will go for Obummer no matter who he votes for just as my state will go for Romney no matter what my vote.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Luvs2shoot
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Galt, I guess we care about who Brian votes for just as much as we care about your vote. You strike me as one of the soundbite voters I spoke of, incapable of logic or seeing the big picture.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
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We care about who Brian might vote for because many of us will have a hard time holding our noses long enough to vote for a candidate that we really don't believe in. A lot of us have had enough of voting against a candidate as opposed to voting for someone.

But other than that no it doesn't matter one bit where my measly little vote or Brian's vote goes - as individuals it means nothing.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: grnberetcj
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I care, that's why I started this thread. I wanted to show what this election means in terms of the future Supreme Court...

You can lead a horse to water, but........

Incredulous stupidity abounds.

Curt

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: John Galt
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Sure is a lot of babble about one vote by one voter. If I didn't know better I'd think that BiO gets 1,000 votes.

Luvey, with all due respect, I don't think you are qualified to give the big picture to anybody.

Pardon my interruption, please continue to bash BiO now- LOL.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Luvs2shoot
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You are probably right, but then I doubt you are either. At least I have seen no evidence of it. By the way, I didn't realize I was bashing Brian or anyone else, did you feel bashed? If so, how does that make you feel?

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: slic lee
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Date: Tue, Jun 12, 2012 - 06:01 PM ET
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You are just putting off the inevitable,fight now or fight later. That is your only choice. Only bloodshed will stop the march of the new world order.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Brian in Oregon
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Date: Tue, Jun 12, 2012 - 09:21 PM ET
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John Galt, quote: "......in fact, his state will go for Obummer no matter who he votes for just as my state will go for Romney no matter what my vote."

In fact, Obama's poll numbers have slipped in Oregon to the point where his lead is within the margin of error. That means Oregon has the potential to be a swing state.

Which will make it a real pity when Oregon is within grasp of the GOP, because a lot of Oregon gunowners have been throwing elections for anti-gun Republican politicians here for about two decades.

But I guess it doesn't matter since most of you have written Oregon off anyway.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: John Galt
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Date: Tue, Jun 12, 2012 - 10:45 PM ET
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Brian, I can't imagine why you would care who wins Oregon since you won't have voted for whoever wins in any case. The good thing is that you can't possibly vote for the loser either. I won't be voting in Oregon either so whether I or anybody else has written off the state is completely irrelevent- IMHO.

I'd sure like to be wrong about what Brian quoted from me and will gladly eat crow if I am proven to be wrong.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: WS-1
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Date: Wed, Jun 13, 2012 - 12:10 AM ET
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I'm confused. If all those pro-gun Oregonians are so dead set against that mean old gun banning Romney, why is the state leaning GOP?

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Brian in Oregon
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Date: Wed, Jun 13, 2012 - 12:37 AM ET
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Some are willing to compromise their principles and vote for a gun banner. Some aren't.

A huge factor is the unofficial 22% unemployment rate.

Plus the Oregon timber counties getting cut off from federal O&C funds because of liberals, and Obama's temporary bailout money done run out. The first of these counties to fail has almost no deputies and most of the prisoners were turned loose.

And the Dems are still spending money like drunken sailors.

Lots of dynamics in play here.

As far as me not voting for Romney, that doesn't mean I want to see Obama win. Romney will have to win without my vote, that's all.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: WS-1
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Date: Wed, Jun 13, 2012 - 07:26 PM ET
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Does the term "Checkmate" ring a familiar note?

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Brian in Oregon
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Date: Wed, Jun 13, 2012 - 10:51 PM ET
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If I was cowardly I would not be subjecting myself to all this verbal abuse for standing on my principles.

Yes, standing on my principles. A concept that apparently is not popular anymore, since no one else appears to have principles worth standing on.

My position this election is that I have not been presented with any choice. I don't want Obama reelected, but I cannot vote for a gun banner. My fellow Republicans have frozen me out of the election.

As for your opinion that my voting third party somehow censors my ability to complain, if we take that to its logical conclusion, you should not complain about anti-gun legislation or Eric Holder because you are supporting a gun banner. So can we agree that this line of thought is nonsense?

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: WS-1
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Date: Thu, Jun 14, 2012 - 12:21 AM ET
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Blatant obfuscation! Quit playing the victim. You have frozen yourself out, Brian. If you want to live in a perfect world, go to heaven. Us mere mortals will carry your load and hopefully we will be able to save our country so that you will have a place to do what you do best, complain.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Brian in Oregon
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Date: Thu, Jun 14, 2012 - 12:36 AM ET
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Complaining? Uh, I see a lot of people, yourself included, complaining about how I vote. You guys sure have the hypocrisy part down pat.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: WS-1
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Date: Thu, Jun 14, 2012 - 01:03 AM ET
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Brian,

You make an exceptionally good victim and, as I said before, you are tenaciously irrational.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Brian in Oregon
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Date: Thu, Jun 14, 2012 - 01:09 AM ET
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Standing on principle is irrational?

Do you even have any principles to stand on?

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: John Galt
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Date: Thu, Jun 14, 2012 - 09:13 AM ET
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This makes no sense. Clearly Brian wants Obama to go but it's obviously not as high a priority for him as it is for me and many others on this forum. Why rag on Brian, who isn't going to vote at all (or will wote for somebody with a 0% chance of winning- same thing) and yet give all the liberal Obama voters here a pass? There is a small but previously vocal group on this forum who love the big eared bozo, have voted for him in the past and will vote for him this time too. I won't speak their names but we all know who they are although they have become rather quiet since their leader Keet left us.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: WS-1
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Date: Thu, Jun 14, 2012 - 11:29 AM ET
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Standing on principles is not, in and of itself, an irrational act. Not all principles, however, are rational. Obama's principles are irrational. Castro's principles are irrational. Guevara's principles were irrational. Stalin's principles were irrational. Thus, Brian, it is possible for a man to have principles and still be irrational. A victim may want revenge, but revenge, though perhaps honorable, is far from rational. You are a victim, Brian, and as I said before, you are tenaciously irrational.

You are no folk hero, no martyr, no Diogenes. Flaunting one's principles is usually an act of desperation, much like tooting one's horn or waving one's flag. Just because you insist on doing what you want to do when ever you want to do it makes you neither principled nor rational.

There endeth the lesson.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Bangalore
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Date: Thu, Jun 14, 2012 - 12:25 PM ET
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Ahem....

There is no principle involved....there is NO PRINCIPLE IN SELF-DESTRUCTIVE STUPIDITY.....I see it more as a CELEBRATION OF CRYSTALLIZED STUPIDITY....there is no underlying redeeming value in this effort.......just one man living in ABSURDITY.....

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: kepkey
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Date: Thu, Jun 14, 2012 - 05:59 PM ET
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Curt,s last post was absolutely correct. The original post was about the Supreme Court and most of the responses had nothing to do with the Supreme Court and were all just bull shit!

Don

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: John Galt
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Date: Thu, Jun 14, 2012 - 07:08 PM ET
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Bangalore (Mr. Cleavage) is one to be talking about someone living in absurdity. Talk about no credibility.

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Bangalore
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Date: Thu, Jun 14, 2012 - 10:26 PM ET
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Hey John,

Maybe you need to take remedial reading classes...you tend to misinterpret what is written....reading comprehension is not a strength....

Regarding your apparent truncated childhood development and subsequent oral fixation with female breasts.....you need to read-up about the underlying reasons.....

Emotional maturity is possibly an ISSUE.....

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: John Galt
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Date: Thu, Jun 14, 2012 - 10:40 PM ET
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Hey there's some cleavage over there..... Hurry so you can see it. LOL Maybe it's not obvious to you but real men like boobs and aren't threatened by cleavage- yes emotional maturity is definitely an issue for you.

For those of you who aren't nutty, how many of you appreciate boobs?

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: Bangalore
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Date: Thu, Jun 14, 2012 - 10:46 PM ET
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Johnny,

Make sure you are closely supervised when visiting DAIRY FARMS....you could hurt the UDDERS and PETA will come after you.....

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Subject: If you don't like Romney....
From: John Galt
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Date: Fri, Jun 15, 2012 - 09:19 AM ET
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