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your tax dollars and the "it isn't a tax ,tax"!!

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by slide action, Jul 2, 2012.

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  1. slide action

    slide action Well-Known Member

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    Just found out to the Obama administration is hiring 16,500 "EXTRA" IRS agents to help the application of the new Health care TAX! OH! I'm sorry it isn't a TAX it's a PENALTY! Let's see, Obama claimed it's "NOT" a TAX, the SCOTUS says it "IS" a TAX, and now NAZI Pelosie says it's not a TAX,it's a PENALTY!! What a bunch of Bull Manure! These dope headed morons must think everybody is just as STUPID as THEY are!!!
     
  2. crusha

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    See!

    It's bringing jobs back already.
     
  3. John Galt

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    Let's not forget that Obama's attorney claimed it WAS a tax when he babbled to the supremes in court. If your lawyer claims it IS a tax in a court argument, how can his client now claim that it ISN'T a tax? Liberals are just so confused- just look at STL Trappy.
     
  4. Setterman

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    He only stated that it was a tax when he saw he was screwed on the Commerce issue.

    My question is, how did he know the Commerce issue was a loser unless he got a lead from a SCJ?

    Winky, winky ;)
     
  5. Don Steele

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    They may be "all confused"...but don't forget one tiny little detail...
    Call it what you will...Tax, NOT Tax, Penalty, "extension of Commerce", NOT extension of commerce"....IT DOESN'T MATTER. Simple truth is, Whatever "IT" is or is not:
    THEY GOT "IT" PASSED...!!!!!!!!!!
    THEY WON..WE LOST.
    WHATCHA GONNA DO...??????
     
  6. slide action

    slide action Well-Known Member

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    The only thing ANY of us can "DO" is work that the dickens to try and help get this Socialist hack and his commie pals out of Washington on election day! It will prove to be very difficult given the nature of the sheep that follow him, but,we can get it our best shot. If not America (and it's fredoms) are DOOMED!
     
  7. Fast Oil

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    Remember this; we are about to shift 1/5 of our economy to the control of Washington polititions and bureaucrats. When you tax something more you get less of it!
     
  8. oz

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    a penalty is what you get when you don't pay the tax.
     
  9. Model Number 12

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    This decision is going to bite every Democrat hard this election. How would you like to have to defend the largest tax increase in history while running for election (or re-election)? How do you explain to the voters in your district that the president was not lying when he adamantly stated that his priority legislation was not a tax, but that is exactly what it really is?

    Obama may have won in the Supreme Court, but he misled the American people to do it. Scott Rasmussen has corrected observed that the Supreme Court decision has just kept Obamacare on life support. His polling has shown that a majority of Americans have consistantly supported repeal of this law since its passage.

    Legislation as unpopular and expensive as this will not be left to stand.

    This fight is going to get ugly.
     
  10. bigdogtx

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    Watch the libs HIDE from this issue this fall,,,,,can't wait to see how many dems don't show up for their convention or let hussein campaign for them,,,,,,he will be like a leper if they want to get reelected.....
     
  11. Don Steele

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    Keep in mind that this disaster was INTENTIONALLY structured to NOT fully kick in until AFTER the 2012 election. WE..(YOU AND I)...WE have a tough job ahead of us. WE have to educate our friends and neighbors about a disaster that is ahead of them...BEFORE it gets here.
    I'm starting to know how Noah felt...!!!
    OR is it Paul Revere...!!!????
     
  12. lots of 24's

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    I dont know where some of you guys figure he is going to get hurt by this. Everything I am reading only points to obama gaining in the polls. We have been hosed andd its gonna get worse. For 4 more years. There wont be anything left to give (or take) away when he's done.
     
  13. Model Number 12

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    How is Obama going to explain away what is now the largest tax increase ever? Remember that he has said that this was NOT a tax. Now that the Supreme Court has said that Obamacare is constitutional because it IS a tax, how does he explain it now? I've already been exposed to the spin and B.S. from the administration trying to rename this to be anything BUT a tax. All these political nit-wits did was insult my intelligence with their baloney.

    Obama has gained no votes from this decision. If anything, the folks that I talk to that were undecided between Mitt Romney and Obama before this have now been moved into the Romney camp. I've yet to speak to a single person who will now vote for Obama because of this decision who was undecided beforehand.

    One of the consequences of this decision that I've seen is how energized the anti-Obama people have become because of it. They may not have liked Mitt Romney, but they are scared to death of 4 more years of Obama.

    By the way, Happy Independence Day. I wonder how long it will continue to mean something, with this growing government control of our lives.
     
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    A large majority of Obastard's supporters do not pay any tax. Remember, 50% of the population do not pay tax. What do they care what the bill is called? They get free health care at the paying 50%'s expense.

    The major group of those getting government assistance live in the metropolitan areas of the country. Look at the last election results. The metro areas carried the election. The county side areas went red but the population concentrations went blue.

    We have an uphill fight. It is our responsibility to educate every working American and get them to vote Repuk. The non workers will vote Democrap regardless. Workers include those employed and those who are looking for employment. That is the only way to save the nation.
     
  15. Johnny

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    " Remember, 50% of the population do not pay tax"

    If you would get your news somewhere besides Fux news, you would know that is not true.

    Everyone who has a job pays taxes on each paycheck. 50% are unemployed?
     
  16. slowdp

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    Check out these sites. They back up my statement.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jul/08/john-cornyn/john-cornyn-says-51-percent-american-households-pa/

    http://blog.heritage.org/2012/02/19/chart-of-the-week-nearly-half-of-all-americans-dont-pay-income-taxes/

    http://nation.foxnews.com/taxes/2012/02/22/percentage-americans-who-pay-no-income-tax-hits-495

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2011/07/27/why-do-some-people-pay-no-federal-income-tax/

    http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2011/05/senate-51-of-households.html

    http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/04/how-we-pay-taxes-11-charts/255954/
     
  17. tachyon

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    Johnny, you are wrong.

    Everyone who has a job has some money "withheld" for income taxes. More than 50% of the population gets back everything they had withheld and many get more than they had withheld via the "earned income credit" which should be called "direct payment to you from those who actually pay income taxes".

    If you have $3000 withheld from your paycheck for income taxes and at tax return time you get $4,000 you did not pay income taxes, in fact you got more than you put in.

    Your other withholdings for social security and medicare are not a tax but your share of a benefit that you will receive when you retire.
     
  18. Johnny

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    Post all the links you want, your statement that 50% pay no tax is still false. Taxes are withheld from every paycheck and , clearly, 50% are not unemployed.
    What you are alluding to is the idea that 50% pay no Federal income tax. The year cited is always 2009 when the recession hit hardest. Below is from your link to Fox news. Notice they cite 2009. The real number is about 14%, not 50%







    “One of the most worrying trends in the Index is the coinciding growth in the non-taxpaying public,” wrote Heritage authors Bill Beach and Patrick Tyrrell. “The percentage of people who do not pay federal income taxes, and who are not claimed as dependents by someone who does pay them, jumped from 14.8 percent in 1984 to 49.5 percent in 2009.”
     
  19. Johnny

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    tachyon, don't forget state tax, they have no mercy. SS and medicare are payroll taxes, call it what you want but it's a tax.
     
  20. Catpower

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    Johnny if they deduct it then refund it you have paid no taxes, they borrowed your money for a year interest free but you still get the money back

    You need to look at your glove, you might have a hole in it, they are pitching and you aren't catching
     
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