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Your government (military) at work...

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Brian in Oregon, May 28, 2012.

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  1. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/05/25/in-reversal-army-bans-high-performance-rifle-mags.html

    The grunts actually on the ground in Afghanistan are heavily using Magpul's PMAGs (see link), because they are superior to the original aluminum M16 magazines.

    These magazines even have their own NSN (National Stocking Number) like any other piece of military hardware.

    Units in Afghanistan have been directly purchasing these magazines to keep their grunts happy.

    Apparently this must have cheesed off some REMF whose Pentagon career depends on buying inferior magazines on bloated contracts, because now the military is issuing a directive to stop using PMAGs and go back to the inferior mags.Perhaps some aluminum mag maker is ticked because sales have dropped off because they failed to make a better mousetrap.

    I hope the line units ignore this idiotic directive. Our soldiers deserve better.
     
  2. Catpower

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    The maker of the inferior mags just paid the right person to make it happen
     
  3. bigdogtx

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    bought some for MY Marine to take with him,,,,,was told he was NOT allowed,,,,,,SUCH BS,,,,You can bet none of them have a child in harm's way.....
     
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    221 Banned User Banned TS Supporters

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    OH GEEESCH, and I thought our military was the technology leader of the world.hahahaha

    Really, the mags our troops are carrying should be the least of your worries as the most of our casualty's are from roadside bombs. When was the last time you heard of a "creditable causality"... caused by an aluminum magazine?

    Billions of rounds have been run through those inferior magazines. They have been working well for over 50yrs. The military is probably growing tired of these boutique manufacturers that are lining their pockets by milking company level credit cards, and then advertising that they are the chosen one's.....A mil-spec grease re-seller got rich, doing just that. The same dealings were rampant in Iraq....there's probably enough funny gun lube left there to create a new oil field discovery....all sold to company level commanders......because of the hype. Same goes with slings, aftermarket stocks, forward grips, flashlights.....ya'll know the deal. Even soldiers yearn to pimp their gun.

    None of that crap will make you, bullet or blast proof.
     
  5. bigdogtx

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    221,,,,,you think the govt will admit that there was a jam on an aluminum mag and put the manufacturer on a potential wrongful death suit???? Think man, think,,,,,besides PMAGS don't have the follower problems that the aluminum mags do.....
     
  6. Brian in Oregon

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    Oooooh brother.

    Magpul Pmags are crush resistant (much more than aluminum mags), they don't dent, they don't deformed the feedlips if the mag lands on them, and they are more resistant to feedlip wear. Prices are decent as well and are cheaper than milspec aluminum mags. They also have optional floorplate grips (Ranger Plates) that make them far easier to extract from magazine pouches.

    And despite claims that Magpul mags are not milspec, they have their own NSN (National Stocking Number) in the military parts system.

    The next best mags are the aluminum milspec bodies with the latest orange non-tilt follower sold by Brownells. Apparently these can't be used by the troops either, now.

    Following that, the genuine milspec aluminum mags with the green anti-tilt follower.

    The problem with other milspec aluminum mags are mainly with the followers. The problem is many nose over, causing the cartridge nose to drop low, resulting in a jam.

    The fact is, the grunts on the ground, the ones actually using them in combat, prefer the Magpul Pmags.
     
  7. oz

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    why not have inferior m16 mags. they did the same thing with the beretta pistol mags. next they'll begetting their drones from walmart (china)
     
  8. halfmile

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    221 needs to be in a firefight with a jammed rifle.

    In the Vietnam era the 223's were jamming if there was a single particle of dust in the works, we used to buy a product called Dri-Slide (which helped a lot) and send it to the troops we knew.

    HM
     
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