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xt mis-fire

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by 68sscamaro, Mar 26, 2007.

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  1. 68sscamaro

    68sscamaro TS Member

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    i picked up a brand new browning xt a month or so ago and have put maybe 1000 to 1500 rounds through it so far.. last thursday i had one misfire and sunday i got 2 misfires (shot 100 rounds each day).. bottom barrel only, top barrel will fire the misfired shell.. and so far only with the cheap wal-mart winchester shells... i have shot a few boxes of the cheap federals, dianas, and winchester super targets just fine.. should i call browning ? need some advice..
     
  2. hoggy

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    If you have any of those shells left you might take a look at the primers in them. They may be seated a bit deeper than normal(bad batch maybe) and you XT's bottom barrels fireing pin might not strike as deep as the upper pin. Just a thought. Actaully what I mean when I say seated is that the pimer itself is lower than the part of the primer that actually sits in the hull.
     
  3. scott k

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    i have 4 xt's, thay all do it. iv'e tryed cleaning, removing the pin to do so, same thing. i tryed wd40, rem oil, grafite, same thing. i belive that the pins are to short on the end the hamer hits. or the spring that returns the pin is to stiff. i'm going to pull the pin, hit the hamer end with my welder, file it flat adding about .010 to it and try it. the most i'm out is the cost of a pin. try shooting fio primers, maybe half will fire in the bottom barrel.i have never had a misfire in the top barrel. guns are less then 2 years old. i'm not to happy with browning right now. i need to get it fixed now not 6 mounths from now. ata shoot in about 3 weeks.

    hope this helps

    later scott
     
  4. phirel

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    In some guns, the bottom firring pin must be a bit shorter than the top firring pin. This is required so that the barrel does not hit the protruding pin when closing.

    Make sure the firring pin is not broken, it is clean and the housing around the pin is clean. Then, if it continues to not shoot certain shells you will probably just have to live with the peculiarity of the gun.

    Pat Ireland
     
  5. halfmile

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    Common citori problem.

    I take mine apart and clean the orifice with a Q-tip and lube VERY lightly with Break Free. It's fairly easy, a little pin holds it in.

    Also check the business end of the pin. Anything that even Looks like a creater will make for firing erratically.

    And I still get one once in a while.

    HM
     
  6. Mac V

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    I've had my XT back to Johnny Allem Guncraft for that problem and after he checked the action he told me to stop using Federal primers and I haven't had a misfire since.

    Mike
     
  7. 68sscamaro

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    stoped by midwest gun works today and showed them the misfired shell.. he said the primer might be a little deep..he pretty much said to try using another brand of shells and if they all go bang then stay away from the cheap wal mart value packs..he also said if the problem is still there he can make the pin longer.. i will shoot it thursday with some super targets and see what happens..
     
  8. XT Bill

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    I've had it happen with the Winchester wally world value packs, and to a much lesser extent, with AA as well.Brand new.Only in the bottom barrell.

    However, I can load Winchester primers into STS and Gun Club hulls, seat them as deep as they'll go, and never have a problem. Zip.Zilch. None. Nada.

    Seems strange I can use their primers in other hulls, but can't use their factory loads. But that's the way it is.
     
  9. 68sscamaro

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    stoped by midwest gun works today and showed them the misfired shell.. he said the primer might be a little deep..he pretty much said to try using another brand of shells and if they all go bang then stay away from the cheap wal mart value packs..he also said if the problem is still there he can make the pin longer.. i will shoot it thursday with some super targets and see what happens..
     
  10. XT Bill

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    I've had it happen with the Winchester wally world value packs, and to a much lesser extent, with AA as well.Brand new.Only in the bottom barrell.

    However, I can load Winchester primers into STS and Gun Club hulls, seat them as deep as they'll go, and never have a problem. Zip.Zilch. None. Nada.

    Seems strange I can use their primers in other hulls, but can't use their factory loads. But that's the way it is.
     
  11. Jon Reitz

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    Mine does the same thing on the bottom barrel only. Cleaned the hell out of the trigger housing. No better. Just replaced the lower firing pin. Still does it. Made a special bushing to seat the primers a few thousandths higher. You guessed it - no change. Top fires fine, every time, but naturally it recoils noticeably more. 'Bout ready to wrap it around a tree.
     
  12. 2506

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    The Browning hammer springs get weak pretty quickly
    you can tell by comparing the length of an old one to a new one
    when you store the gun be sure the hammers are not cocked
    this will extend ther life, probably nothing else wrong with it
     
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    had the same problem sent it to severval gunsmiths only to have it start misfiring
    again finally learned to change the springs myself
    it can be a continual problem when your remove the old springs they will be
    1/8 to 1/4 inch shorter than the new springs have ordred some better springs
    from wolf gunsprings but have not tried them yet
     
  14. 68sscamaro

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    will browning fix this problem on a month old gun...
     
  15. rjdden

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    My wifes Uncle John purchased a Browning Superposed. About 1970 I believe. It was just one year to the date that I started shooting Trap. Anyway, This browning according to him was giving him problems with missfiring on the bottom barrel. He just shrugged it off and kept going with it. It did it again to him several times. John was one who shot a lot and reloaded 90% of the time. Some were paper Federals and most were Winny AA's. The paper ones were the shells he had problems with. He wrote a letter to Browning and received and answer within a week of his letter and he got to looking at them and found on some that the inner portion was set deeper than outside housing. He wrote a letter to Federal and explained what he had found and they wrote him back and by then they had alreay made there find on them and made the neded changes. He then took his gun down and made a longer firing pin for it. You see he was a machinest. It was good to have him around for problems like this. I never experienced this kind of problem with my Remington shot guns But I found that in my 30-06 it had a short pin and was giving me missfires it wasn't an expencive rifle but when he got finished with it it was the best I ever had. It was a Mouser action, purchased it from Sears. It didn't matter what brand of cartrage I used I would get one to two missfires even on my reloads. After he got finished with it. No propblems what so ever. Rich. (inPeoria,Az.)
     
  16. Beancounter

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    I have read much here and looks like lots of urban legend and not much real gunsmithing. There are SAMMI specs governing ammunition, chamber sizes, etc. I believe the guts of my old Citori are the same as the XT and that gun always goes bang (either barrel). If I had a new gun that failed to fire, I would be on the horn with Browning. We are talking about a brand new shotgun.

    Having said that, the advice that may be worthwile here is different shells. No matter what the armchair advisors tell you, there are reasons that promo shells are cheap.
     
  17. 68sscamaro

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    i only live about 30 minutes from the browning repair facility in arnold mo..
    so if it turns out its the gun i would not have to ship..only problem is i cant be without the gun for weeks (practice and tournaments)
     
  18. scott k

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    well i fixed mine myself. about 30 min. per gun and the problem is solved.
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    i touched the right end of the firing pin,photo 3, with my welder, and filled it back to shape.with the hamer down the pin doesn't stick out far enough to fire the primer. i added about .010 to the pin.

    the gun does every thing it should do and nothing it should not.

    i did not have weeks to wait to get it fixed.

    sometimes if you want something done right, you need to do it yourself.

    later scott
     
  19. scott k

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  20. scott k

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    i guess i can't post the pic.
     
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