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WTS Model 12 Pigeon 3 barrel set..corrected (Sold)

Discussion in 'For Sale- Members only' started by mbm5770, Oct 8, 2012.

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  1. mbm5770

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    Pictures?
     
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    and location?
     
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    Grab the serial number while your in there as well.
     
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    Grab some pictures too! Inquiring minds want to see pictues of a $7,000 M-12 that is not a 28 gauge.
     
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    The engraving is FACTORY Grade 5 engraving with Gold. If it's like mine it has some beautiful wood.
     
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    I am posting these pictures for Bobby


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    Please Note: This pics where sent to me Via I-Phone...

    Stu Gabriel (MrGun)
     
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    Here are the two Winchester Letters that come with this gun. I hope they are ok for you to read. If not, you can always email Bobby direct and he will send them to you.


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    Regards,

    Stu Gabriel (MrGun)
     
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    Pauline in Conn. can cetainly cerify the engraving pattern.
     
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    Are these guns milled receivers like the Super Pigeons with Y serial numbers, or are they cast receiver guns? Where was the engraving done? Was the wood checkered by John Durkin?
     
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    Guns Unlimited and Jaquas contracted Winchester to take remaining inventory of Y-model 12 parts to make the guns. They were offered in 5 grades of engraving with grade 4 & 5 offered with or without gold. This is one of the 45 3 barrel sets that were made. They came in Trap, Skeet and Field. I recall that the 3 barrel sets sold for $5495.00
     
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    hard to tell from pics, but is it field stocked or M/Carlo?
    pad?
    dang...its only an A-carving. B would have been nice.
     
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    The questions I asked about whether the receivers are milled like the Super Pigeons or cast like the Y guns and who engraved the guns were not answered. Some old time Winchester collectors don't know much about the late guns and have to ask these questions. What are the answers?
     
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    The receivers on the "Y" guns were cast.
     
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    Scoutmaster, not all of the Y guns had cast receivers. I had a very early Y gun that had a milled receiver and two pin milled rib.

    Hit 'em hard,

    John
     
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    Once Winchester went to a computer system any model 12 leaving the factory had to have the Y designation.This includes any Pre-64 clean up guns made.Any reciever that is pre 2 Million is a pre-64 made gun.Jeff
     
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    John,

    Thank you for the correction. I don't know why the M-12 "Y" guns are looked down upon for cast receivers. Ruger, Thompson Center, and many other manufactures have been producing cast receivers and parts on their gun offerings giving up very little in product strength.
     
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    Trapmanjohn is correct. Not all Y guns have cast receivers. I asked whether this one is cast or milled and who engraved it. I haven't gotten an answer to either question. To push a $7500 Model 12, you have to be willing to answer some questions.
     
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    These guns were made by usrac in 85. They are factory engrave but not signed by the engraver. I recently bought a set new and unfired in the box. One of these sets recently sold at Rock Island auction for 7400. If you factor in the 15% buyers premium on top of that, his price is not bad compared RRA.
     
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