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Wind & shot 8 1/2s vs 8's

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Fraz, Jan 18, 2012.

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  1. Fraz

    Fraz TS Member

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    Wind & shot 8 1/2s vs 8

    Up here in New York State where the wind blows all winter long,
    What is your opinion on 8-1/2 vs 8s and the effect the wind and cold birds
    will be with 8-1/2 shot.
    Fraz
     
  2. GoldTrigger

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    You asked for an opinion so that is what you will get....

    My opinion is 7.5 for Summer Handicap shooting

    7.5 or 8's (your choice for Summer Singles)

    Winter when cold I always shoot 7.5's for everything... More mass against wind and more energy to break cold targets...

    8.5's sounds like a skeet load to me.. Or close in wooded shots in Sporting Clays.
     
  3. wayneo

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    +1 GoldTrigger. I never want to sacrifice pellet energy for more pellets in cold windy conditions. With the shooting jacket and gloves I've got on, and being cold, it takes me just a little longer to get on the bird. JMO

    Wayne
     
  4. GoldTrigger

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    So true, Wayneo, So true
     
  5. open choke

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    I shoot 7.5 for everything so I don't need to worry about it and have more than one type of load.

    Long Island, NY
     
  6. hmb

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    When the wind blows the target to the right it also blows the shot to the right. So what's the problem. HMB
     
  7. open choke

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    I never thought of it like HMB said.

    This is gonna bring a debate... I just know it

    This is what we know...

    Wind is whatever it is in MPH & direction --- the shot is several hundred tiny objects that weigh almost nothing --- the target is one object that weighs more than the shot --- the shot travels at ??? FPS and then there is distance also --- the target travels at like 39-41 MPH if I'm not mistaken

    So in theory; the wind should carry the very small weight of the shot pellets differently than the weight of the target which is much heavier.
     
  8. Jim Bradbury

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    Cold Weather says it all. Nothing but 7 1/2's. I feel that you need the retained energy to break the cold targets.

    Jim Bradbury

    30 degrees and snowing hard in Seattle today.
     
  9. bkt514

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    Generally, 7.5 shot in cold weather as the pellets have more energy at a given velocity than #8s, and cold air is a lot denser. Warm air is less dense, and at a given velocity the #8's work fine. But why confuse things, just use #7.5 and be done with it. or this works for the 16 to 22 yard line...

    7.5s at 1100 fps or faster
    8's at 1180 fps or faster
    8.5s at 1250 fps or faster
     
  10. goony

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    I just bought my first bag of 8 1/2's. I loaded up some 1oz loads at about 1250 fps. I shoot from 16 yds with a full choke so we will see how they work on Thursday.
     
  11. 635 G

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    I no longer reload. I use Remington STS ammo exclusively in my sbt. At the 16 yd line 1 0z 0f factory with 81/2 @ 1185 vaporizes all targets. The bore on my Infinity is .740 & I use a Briley S2 LM. It works--I was told the faster the shell the more open the choke. If the choke is too tight on a really fast load @ short yardage the pattern never gets a chance to open up to optimum.

    Phil Berkowitz
     
  12. open choke

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    Phil you now gave me another thing to think about
     
  13. lots of 24's

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    If you're on 'em, they break. It really is that simple
     
  14. minnship8

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    I shoot 1 oz 8 1/2's through a seminole LM at 16 yards and you can't tell a difference in the breaks, summer to winter...it crushes them. Chicago area.

    AA, 17.5 gr Clay Dot, WJII, Win 209. 1184 fps

    Regards,
    Chip
     
  15. Johnny

    Johnny Well-Known Member

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    Don't over think it, just shoot it.
     
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