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Winchester Super X Model 1 Trap

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Chris B., Oct 28, 2013.

  1. Chris B.

    Chris B. TS Member

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    Thinking about buying a Winchester Super X Model 1 30" Trap Gun. Were the Super X Model 1's a pretty reliable automatic?
  2. Trap2

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    Chris..... You gotta be kidding? The SX-1 is the best automatic trap gun ever made, period! All other automatics could only wish they were as good.... Just my opinion.... Dan Thome (Trap2)
  3. Barry C. Roach

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    One of the best ever. Still jams on dubs.
  4. oleolliedawg

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    Best auto ever-I'm in on that one. Jams-never heard of 'em!!
  5. X1

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    They work great and parts are readily available
    from Nuline guns and Wrights guns if needed so don't worry about not being able to get parts for it.I use mine for trap and pheasant hunting and run many different loads and have no problems.Solid gun,no question about it.

    http://www.nulineguns.com/category_part_41_3_31_41.php

    http://www.wrightsgunsmiths.com/Parts%20&%20Gun%20Sales.htm
  6. BigM-Perazzi

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    very reliable. but, You must replace certain parts when you get yours, unless they already have been, most likely the recoil buffer.

    Wrightsguns I've found best for parts.

    Jim C
  7. hera200

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    SUPER X RELIABLE? Have had one for 20 yr. but put it away for the last 10 yr. Pulled it out a few months ago and realized I had misplaced the shell catcher but decided to try a round of trap anyway. It shot the empties out about 10ft and knew I was pushing friendship to the limit as empties flew. But, I also knew I had the answer, since I had read a thread on TS.com as to how to remove a few parts and disable the gas operation. I set about doing this knowing I could now shoot another round no problem. NOW, IT ONLY SHOT THE EMPTY ABOUT 8 FT!!! Finally I broke down and got a shell catcher at the local gun shop. Yeah, I did put the parts back in but as for RELIABLE?? I couldn't get it to fail to eject when I really tried!.......BUD
  8. Barry C. Roach

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    Hey Dawgy. Would you guarantee double the customer's money back that it wouldn't jam on one you sell?
  9. rondl

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    I have one for sale if interested please pm me
  10. oleolliedawg

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    Barry, even Winchester may have made 1 or 2 dogs out of 90,000 guns!!
  11. wayneo

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    Just took mine out of the safe on Sunday for the first time in a year. Shot two rounds of skeet with 1 ounce loads, no problem. I put a new Wrights recoil spring and buffer in it a couple of years ago, and would suggest any one do that if not already done.

    Wayne
  12. hera200

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    Is damage being done if the recoil spring and buffer are not replaced periodically? Mine have never been replaced.....BUD
  13. Oregunner

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    The buffer gets hard, and breaks into small pieces, clogging up the works at the most inopportune time. Mark
  14. Tom Strunk

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    I shot one for quite a while back in the 80's and sometimes a little later. It's still in my safe and it feels so fine when I pick it up. I have shot a lot of shotguns over my 35 year career, and I will tell you it was stone reliable.

    I have shot a 700 round doubles marathon with this gun with no jams or failure to fire the second shot. I also built another one to compete in sporting clays, where shooting twice is common. Never recall any feeding problems with this gun either.

    In 85 I ran the 200 singles at the California State shoot, then another 200 that evening, just wiped it off and brushed the gas cylinder, cleaned the gas rings with steel wool and went out and ran the 100 in doubles the next morning. Later that evening I hit 124 to lose the singles shootoff. Then just quickly wiped it off as they were waiting for me for the doubles shootoff. Went 118 in the shootoff to lose that too. But again no failure to feed the second shell.

    Buy the gun, get Nu-Lines anti-rust gas system, and have the trigger tuned to take out as much creep as you can, replace the buffer with a new one and probably a new return spring, and buy the shell deflector that Winchester made ( I believe Nu-Line has those to ) and you are good to go. The only thing I ever broke was a firing pin spring, you might want to replace that to.


    Tom Strunk
  15. Barry C. Roach

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    I've owned or shot most of them. SuperX1, 50, 1100, 11-48, 51, 1400, Bi-Matic, Butler. All of them jammed shooting dubs. For the money and considering material quality, however, the SuperX1 is the best ... but it'll still jam and cost you targets.
  16. Tom Strunk

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    Barry, I highly respect your opinion. But, that has not been my experience. My guns never cost me a target.

    I had a 97.00 avg in doubles in 85 shooting my Super-x.

    Tom Strunk
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    I also remember a number of years ago when Pete McCall had the high doubles average for the year with his. I tied for our state handicap championship with mine and wished now I had never gotten rid of it. Wish I knew what choke Pete had in his, just curious. I think he did better with that old Super-X of his then the Kolar he went to.
  18. Bob Hawkes

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    michmoe, I think you'd find it was full. Years ago-early eighties-Winchester sponsored a marathon, 4,000 singles each if I remember correctly, at Singletary R&G in MA. Two 3 man squads, one of left handed shooters and one of right. Pete shot in that and was barely edged out by Bill Anzaldi for the high average for the day. Winchester had a poster made of the pile of shells and the shooters pictures for promotion of the guns reliability. That was a fun day with narry a hick-up for any of the shooters. Pete could shoot anything you put in his hands extremely well, a great talent in his prime.
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    Don't you think some jamming might be due to reloads, or did everyone shoot newbies? Sometimes a petal does bulge out a bit and cause feeding problems.
  20. oleolliedawg

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    I've owned dozens of SX-1,s and never remember jamming problems. I'm down to two. I do shoot good handloads sometimes but tend to use my rejects all others!!