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Winchester Model 12 Question Please

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by trackerdan, May 2, 2007.

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  1. trackerdan

    trackerdan Member

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    Hello, There are just some things you think will never happen because they are cost prohibitive or just never show up when you have the dough.

    Well I am now the happy owner of a Winchester Model 12, 12 gauge, 28" solid ribbed barrel shotgun.

    It has one issue. When you feed shells underneath into the magazine they will not stay in. The carrier does not snap back down to hold the shell in. Hence the gun can only be top loaded and used in the single shot position. I guess that's alright as long as your only shooting singles.

    I have enclosed a couple pictures of the gun for your enjoyment.

    Any useful comments will be greatly appreciated.

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    Enjoy.

    Thanks,

    Dan

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  2. larryjk

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    Take this Model 12 to a gunsmith and have him pull the trigger assembly and check the condition of the cartridge stop. It may be actually missing since they fall out of position when the trigger assemble is pulled.
     
  3. bigbore613

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    Also in addition to the above comments, a M-12 is not an 1100. There is a little hang up that you just may need to figure out. Push the shell in and let it snap back. Try it with no shell in the chamber, close the action, then try it. Some of my well worn M-12's are a little finicky. Jeff
     
  4. Gregor

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    trackerdan,

    The Model 12 does not retain the shells "deep" in the magazine tube like you are used to on newer shotgun models. The shell is pushed into the magazine tube as you are accustomed to, then the magazine spring pushes the shell BACK onto the front top of the lifter/carrier. You will see the base of the shell between the front of the lifter and the receiver. The lifter has a machined area that stops the shell from popping out.

    You "Thumb" the shell into the magazine tube and let the lifter/carrier pop back down. The magazine spring will push the shell onto the top of the lifter/carrier. As Jeff said, "There is a little hang up that you just may need to figure out."

    When you take it apart, you will DEEPLY APPRECIATE the machining and hand assembly that went into this fine shotgun and understand why it became too costly for Winchester to continue making.

    Enjoy it.

    Regards,

    Gregor
     
  5. harleypilot

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    TE,

    According to the serial number, this guns was made in 1950.

    Jim
     
  6. claybrdr

    claybrdr Well-Known Member

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    What does "2 post" mean? Obviously a solid rib gun....
     
  7. bigbore613

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    Dan, in order to put a vent rib of a factory type on your gun the reciever would have to me machined to accept the rib extension and that would ruin the value of your Solid rib gun. much better to buy another gun. Ventilated ribs were designed to help with the problem of heat waves and be a little lighter. Jeff
     
  8. winchesterm12

    winchesterm12 TS Member

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    The cartidge stop is only needed when loading more than 2 shells it is not need to to load 2 shells. That said the the follower is what holds the shell in the mag tube if the plunger spring is week replace it.
     
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