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Winchester Model 12 need advice

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by Murphy, Mar 30, 2008.

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  1. Murphy

    Murphy Member

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    I have a Winchester Model 12 Featherweight, 12 ga 28in full plain barrel, I really like the gun but am thinking about having a gun smith open the choke for skeet shooting. It's my understanding that the featherweight is not real collectible so I don't think modifing it would hurt it. Your thoughts on this are appreciated and also am wondering if most gunsmiths culd do this and also approximate cost to open to skeet?
     
  2. IM390

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    I would think in practible terms that you would be just as better off to have choke tubes installed. Keep the gun available to a variety of options and I believe there won't be much of a cost difference.
     
  3. Murphy

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    Thanks, sounds like right idea, can most of these guns handle this work, barrel thickness etc.
     
  4. kirbythegunsmith

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    You have a choice before you: do I open the choke or go with tubes?

    Realize that a proper choke opening (straight) can always be followed later by a choke tube. There is an extra charge for rework of a barrel twice, but if you decide the choke being opened works OK for you, why get tubes?

    Is there much chance that you want to do more than skeet or close-in bird/rabbit shooting? If you want the option to shoot pheasant, trap, dove, squirrel etc. then you will probably need tubes. OR, learn how to shoot skeet with a full (or opened to modified) choke.

    Those barrels are probably too thin for any typical aftermarket choke tube install. If the barrel thickness didn't make it impossible, the bore diameter probably would. Then there is the situation of the plain barrel not having material for the bead to stay, then.

    My custom choke installs are not fixed to any specific bore diameter limitation or outside diameter, just a basic wall thickness for safety at the completion of job. I would measure the barrel to verify that tubes were a safe possibility before doing an installation, and have put my own chokes in many thin barrels that other shops would say had no chance of them believing it could be done.

    It is possible for many shops to open a choke or install tubes. There are fewer shops that can open a choke right or install a custom-fit choke tube. The difference is the experience, style and/or types of tools used, etc. Many chokes have been opened with reamers that are adjusted to make the cutter a certain size and pushed through the hole. I have seen many side-by-side barrels that had the chokes opened "pigeon-toed" by such an arrangement. An AHFox with the barrels ruined by an idiot is no pleasure to behold.

    No adjustable reamer can do justice to accuracy, and the tools sold using the premise that an expanding or adjustable reamer can do a straight cut needs to read any classic tool catalog. Expanding blade reamers were ALWAYS meant to be used as a wear compensation, so when the tips wore and were ready for regrind, the points could be adjusted out to reset the flute diameter wear zone back to the original intended diameter. Production size could thus be restored. "Clever" people decided this was an idea that could be perverted for money and sold a bill of goods that a new idea was around. One tool fits many choke openings! You've seen one wrench that fits every bolt, haven't you? And naturally it must be better than a specifically sized wrench, too. Another "miracle".

    If you price shop, you will go with someone that does mass-produced type work. If you value quality of work vs. speed and price, consider me for whatever you have done. I am a Model-12 specialist, by the way.

    Kirby

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