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winchester 209's not firing???

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by RAScott, Oct 25, 2009.

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  1. RAScott

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    winchester 209

    I have been reloading for years and i just switched to a top barrel in my gun, prior to the switch i had a couple of bloopers in my unsingle barrel very very rare.

    So i shoot 25 reloads no problem next round 5 out of 25 light strikes and no fire, Has anyone else had bad winchester primers?

    I will try again. this week and hopfully get some answers.

    Bob s
     
  2. short shucker

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    Did you try the shells in your other barrel? It may not be the primers.

    ss
     
  3. RAScott

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    I was trying my new top single i will bring them to the range tomorrow and try them in the o/u barrel or the unsingle.
    Bob S
     
  4. Setterman

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    If your hulls have been shot a lot, sometimes the primers get seated too deep, and the firing pins barely touch the primer. Check that too.
     
  5. Ed Y

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    Try another gun.

    Ed Yanchok
     
  6. Jawhawker

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    Bob, what kind of gun?
     
  7. RAScott

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    Kolar, just mounted a top single on it. I was trying out the new barrel tonight i will bring the unsingle. and try that too.
    Bob S
     
  8. Hap MecTweaks

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    A few years back Winchester did have some problems with a certain lot# of their primers. No gun would fire them either. I threw away the lot # in question and use other primers now.

    Are your primers new, or have you had them for quite some time? Tried in a different gun should tell you pretty quick what the problem may be. Hap
     
  9. BIGDON

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    I have loaded 1,000's of AA primers and never a misfire. Light hits are the gun's problem or rarely the hull.

    Don
     
  10. wireguy

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    What Don said. Primers are designed to require a violent strike to fire them. That's why they are so safe.
     
  11. olddrum1

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    I would check your primer feed on your reloader to make sure there is not something under the primer when you seat them.
     
  12. Quack Shot

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    Look at the indentations in the primers. If they are shallow and/or off center, you need to look for the root cause. Headspace, weak hammer springs, worn pins, or dirt in the firing pin recess come to mind. If it's a good, dead center hit, you might look at the primers or hulls.
     
  13. RAScott

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    I went to the club, I had a few more very light hits last nite switched to a unsingle barrel most fired.

    I used a buddy's browning citori gun and still couldnt fire 1 of them. I switched to the unsingle barrel and no problem. I think some are low and my top firing pin is allitle shorter than the bottom. NEW shells work fine. It doesnt make much sense but the reloads are finicky in the over single.

    Bob S
     
  14. Ahab

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    Could it be that you are seating them too deep?
     
  15. short shucker

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    I agree. Check you primer depth. Sounds like they are right on the edge.

    ss
     
  16. racer

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    Did you select the right barrel? LOL just kidding.. :)
     
  17. Sigraph

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    I put a tuning kit in a S&W 357 classic hunter years ago and got the spring adjustment too light. It would lightly indent the primer and about 1 out of 15 or 20 wouldn't fire because they were struck too lightly. That's probably the cause - (too light of a hammer spring). Most of the ones that wouldn't fire would actually fire the second try. It should be visible that the primers are struck too lightly.
     
  18. superxjeff

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    Ponsness Warren loader with too much pressure on the brass. This causes a slight dish. I have seen this a dozen times or more. If you load on a PW check this out. Jeff
     
  19. RAScott

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    I use a mec 9000 havent had the problem before. Thanks for the suggestions
     
  20. PerazziBigBore

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    Put a straight edge against the back of your reloaded shell... if the primer is anymore than .003 from the back f the hull.. it's to deep..
     
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