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== Winchester 101 SBT? ==

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by GW22, Oct 30, 2011.

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  1. GW22

    GW22 Active Member

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    I saw a single barrel 101 at a gun show today, nice shape, for $450. I thought about buying it to use for a youth/loaner gun, but was concerned about recoil and other issues. I'm interested in info & opinions from people who have actually shot the single barrel trap version.

    Recoil?

    Reliability?

    Parts Available? (it's 40 years old)

    Thanks,
    Gary
     
  2. short shucker

    short shucker TS Member

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    They were made by GM. You don't want one.

    ss
     
  3. halfmile

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    Not sure, but I believe this was on a 2 pipe frame. Made by Olin-Kodensha, probably hard to get parts for now.

    Better shoot it first, they have a little bit of a rep for kicking.

    Good price, with a Kick-Eeze and one ounce loads might be ok.

    HM
     
  4. GW22

    GW22 Active Member

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    2 pipe frame / Made by Olin-Kodensha is correct, Halfmile. Thanks.

    -Gary
     
  5. grntitan

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    I can't give you any info on the 101 SBT. I had always heard about the terrible recoil from the Winchester 101's and steered clear of them. I had the opportunity to shoot a few rounds with a 30" O/U Winchester 101 during practice. I personally did not experience this terrible recoil. I in fact thought the gun shot fairly well. I was using my normal 1 1/8oz #8's in a STS hull with 19gr Green Dot. Not saying it isn't true, i just didn't see it.
     
  6. GW22

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    Matt, I too have shot the O/U and didn't think the recoil was bad as the reputation. But I've never shot the SBT and I'm concerned because I assume it's a little lighter.

    -Gary
     
  7. smokeater6844

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    I bought a 101 Diamind grade unsingle a while back for my 11 year old son. Recoil does not seem to be an issue but we load 1oz and on the light side. It seems to be a good quality gun and parts are available through Midwest Gun Works.

    Hope this helps

    Brian "Robbie and Jake's Dad"
     
  8. Jawhawker

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    Depends wether the stock fits the shooter as due to stock configuration, they are less forgiving the other models. They do bump more than the O/U's but they are lighter.

    Parts are readily available from many.

    Good price. Can buy a set of O/U barrels and have a cheap combo.
     
  9. joe90t

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    Single Barrel With A C & H Mercury Reducer And Your Brother's Cousin's Nephew's Wife's 10 yr Old Step Child could Shoot It. The "Newer" 101's Made by FN Are GREAT Guns NO KICK. I Shot A Newer O/U 101 And The Owner "SAID" It Was Made By FN. Boy I Hope I Got That Right. JOE W.
     
  10. Martinpicker

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    Not a darn thing wrong with this gun. I shot the o/u version for years with no kick issues. If the lighter weight bothers you, get a cheap barrel weight for it. Plenty of parts available frtom many places.
     
  11. GW22

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    Hmmm, I might take a closer look and make an offer next time I see this fellow at a show.

    Thanks for the useful comments.

    -Gary
     
  12. Barry C. Roach

    Barry C. Roach Well-Known Member

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    The "Diamond Grade" 101's have larger bores and are tamer than the older ones. Still in all that's a good price and you can tame it down with some weight. Good luck.
     
  13. spicyfish

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    I have 2 of the new 101's. Both are made in Belgium by FN. One field and one pigeon grade trap. The loads I shoot are 1oz, 17.5 grains of Claydot in Remington hulls. Recoil is not noticible to me. Lou P
     
  14. kiv-c

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    I have 2 Winchester SBT's; a 1969 vintage 32" and a 1974 vintage 34". Lots of rounds throught the 32", with only a broken firing pin so far. Parts are available from Numrich, Nuline, Midwest. Probably others, as well.

    The 34" gun developed a loose rib that I'm going to have to resolder one of these days when I get the ambition.

    The people that I've heard mention the supposed recoil issue are usually people that have never fired one; they just heard from somebody, who talked to a guy that said he knew a guy that said it kicked hard with them Nitro 27's...

    I switch regularly between the 101's and my 1187 Rem. Granted, there is a noticeable difference, but the SBT's kick no more than a BT99, in my estimation.

    Pretty good guns that can be had at a reasonable price these days.

    Kiv
     
  15. tedskeet

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    i am an aa shoter i have been shooting a diamond 101 single barrel for about 7 years now i put on a graycoil the kick people talk about is in there minds mixer can vouch for me i have 8 101s 4 over&unders @ 4 single barrels put an 8oz dead mule in the stock if you feel the kick is to much.single barrel shoots 60/40 with m/c stock gook luck.ted
     
  16. mike Adcock

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    I shot one for quite awhile. Replaced an ejector hammer and had to have the rib re soldered. They were originally done with soft solder. I didn't have a recoil issue. I made the 27 yard line with it.

    Mike Adcock
     
  17. Mr. Flinch

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    I had a new 101 Select 30" Trap and liked it. I trade often and sold it to a young lady in SCTP and she's delighted with it.
     
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